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Who killed the rave?

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Re: Who killed the rave?

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Early dancing seems to be getting a bit of a boost though? Dayfever and Annie Mac's "Before Midnight" events seem to be v popular in Ireland and the UK

For as long as this is a thing, raves won't have widespread appeal.

If a rave is somewhere that your parents go, then it's naff.

It's also extremely expensive if it's legal. Everyone is brassic.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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On the one hand millennials are getting older so it's totally reasonable to expect they wouldn't want to party into the early AM anymore. On the other hand real raves don't happen in legal venues. I've partied in warehouses, upscale restaurants, artist studios, roller skating rinks, movie theaters, hotels, apartments. I threw parties on the lightship Nantucket (LV-112), although those were day parties. But none of th…

The article also mentions that earlier ending events made to accommodate aging millennials have seen an unexpected and huge interest from Gen Z

But yeah, the decline of the nightlife and hospitality sector is what this article is about, as the regulated rave experience is very mainstream and has been for a long time now

The production value is quite high now and still improving so I don't see why the illicit rave experience would be so interesting when the facilities would be so lacking in comparison. There are lots of electronic dance music events on boats, cruiseliners, retired battleships and more.

Music festivals are bigger than ever though, and they are so frequent and numerous that you can go as frequently as people were going to clubs. I have multiple friend groups where that’s all they do and it is far more intense than just being out passed 3am, although many do officially end their main programming at 1am, many don’t.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Too expensive? I see illegal dance parties in the countryside more than ever. And people drive far for them and sleep it off in the sun the next day (or so). Big bags of drugs (if you buy in bulk, drugs are those things that come with very large discounts) and wholesale energydrinks etc. So those are cheap, but I can see legal places would have issues maybe? High entry fees, super expensive drinks etc.

Despite the headline, the article makes it clear that it is talking about legal nightclubs, primarily in large cities. The younger generation just isn't into clubbing every weekend in that way, don't want to spend (or even have) that sort of money on going out, and the costs of running a club have skyrocketed. At the same time, according to the article, it seems that larger one off events or festivals are still very…

> Who's attending these? Is it mainly the old timers or are they attracting a strong following from new generations?

Mostly 20somethings as far as I have seen; invites are word of mouth (aka Whatsapp) and we stumble on them because we hike around a lot and then have a chat. This is during the day when the partygoers are chilling out usually.

Oldtimers are mostly dancing in local bars to small cover bands. Also until the early morning usually and no coke/speed, but just beer/spirits.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idk why this is downvoted. I would be surprised if this isn’t a factor, at least in the US.

Are you referring to Israel's pager bombs or perhaps several years too late, the Samsung Galaxy Note 7? (for a chuckle: the wikipedia page for the device begins with "The Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is a[n] explosive ...")

> Galaxy Note 7

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Re: Who killed the rave?

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On the one hand millennials are getting older so it's totally reasonable to expect they wouldn't want to party into the early AM anymore. On the other hand real raves don't happen in legal venues. I've partied in warehouses, upscale restaurants, artist studios, roller skating rinks, movie theaters, hotels, apartments. I threw parties on the lightship Nantucket (LV-112), although those were day parties. But none of th…

The article also mentions that earlier ending events made to accommodate aging millennials have seen an unexpected and huge interest from Gen Z But yeah, the decline of the nightlife and hospitality sector is what this article is about, as the regulated rave experience is very mainstream and has been for a long time now The production value is quite high now and still improving so I don't see why the illicit rave exp…

We go for the vibe not the facilities

Re: Who killed the rave?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idk why this is downvoted. I would be surprised if this isn’t a factor, at least in the US.

Are you referring to Israel's pager bombs or perhaps several years too late, the Samsung Galaxy Note 7? (for a chuckle: the wikipedia page for the device begins with "The Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is a[n] explosive ...")

Maybe they were talking about ravers not being able to *control these mood swings*

(Tyres from Spaced)

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Re: Who killed the rave?

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Related Berlin's beat goes quiet as techno clubs close their doors (3 points, 2 months ago, no comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42149813 https://archive.is/BdJlM (Better Watergate photos)

There was also a big thread - Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future (300 comments) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38151205 14 years ago - Berlins new techno beat. why international tech startups should move to berlin - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2729524 (Article is gone so not sure if it's a play on techno)

btw: Watergate (and Renate in a year (and Rummelsburger Bucht a few years ago)) are closing because some secretive Russian oligarch has decided the way he wants to throw his oligarch money around is to buy up left-wing spaces in Berlin and shut them down. Not just rave clubs or whatever they're properly called - he was also the reason for the tiny little squat Liebig 34 getting stormed by over 2000 armed police officer, and I don't remember whether he also had the same role with another squat, Køpi Wagenplatz, which got shut down in a very similar way (the police brought an actual tank to that one). He either has the right connections, or he knows exactly how to manipulate the legal system. Watergate actually tried to buy its own building at a fair market price, but this guy outbid it.

I think the owner of Watergate, felt it was a good time to retire from that anyway, but that isn't the case for the other spaces affected.

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Re: Who killed the rave?

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On the one hand millennials are getting older so it's totally reasonable to expect they wouldn't want to party into the early AM anymore. On the other hand real raves don't happen in legal venues. I've partied in warehouses, upscale restaurants, artist studios, roller skating rinks, movie theaters, hotels, apartments. I threw parties on the lightship Nantucket (LV-112), although those were day parties. But none of th…

The article also mentions that earlier ending events made to accommodate aging millennials have seen an unexpected and huge interest from Gen Z But yeah, the decline of the nightlife and hospitality sector is what this article is about, as the regulated rave experience is very mainstream and has been for a long time now The production value is quite high now and still improving so I don't see why the illicit rave exp…

> I don't see why the illicit rave experience would be so interesting when the facilities would be so lacking in comparison.

I swear if you strip away legal pot and LGBTQ rights (not saying those are bad) we have culturally returned to the 1950s. This is a very conservative period with little interest in or tolerance for actual outside-the-lines culture or experience.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'm in the UK and there are still regular late night dance / EDM nights in my city. I was at one a couple of weekends ago, 11pm - 4am. A good mix of ages too, people clearly in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s. Everyone having a great time, I would guess at least 70% of the people were on something too, (MDMA, Ecstasy etc).

MDMA and Ecstasy are the same thing afaik

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