Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?
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Most people's opinion of Elon, good or bad, is directly informed by his Xeets
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#22I'm nearly 50. I'm used to the idea of businesses owners having different politics than my own, but mostly that was the sort of self-interested "I'm wealthy and I think wealthy people should pay fewer taxes and their businesses should be subject to fewer regulations" sorts of things. You can disagree without thinking they're necessarily Bad People or worthy of boycotting their businesses. Indeed, it's the hallmark of…
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#23Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?
From a UK perspective its where all the BMW drivers ended up; Universal bellends, a danger to be around.
I'm sure most the country at large don't know/care about X.com/Election stuff.
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#24I'm nearly 50. I'm used to the idea of businesses owners having different politics than my own, but mostly that was the sort of self-interested "I'm wealthy and I think wealthy people should pay fewer taxes and their businesses should be subject to fewer regulations" sorts of things. You can disagree without thinking they're necessarily Bad People or worthy of boycotting their businesses. Indeed, it's the hallmark of…
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#25Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?
It's not just HN
I don't know if you've somehow avoided seeing him in the news buddying up with the Trump administration + the German nationalist party AfD (Alternative für Deutschland)
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#27I'm nearly 50. I'm used to the idea of businesses owners having different politics than my own, but mostly that was the sort of self-interested "I'm wealthy and I think wealthy people should pay fewer taxes and their businesses should be subject to fewer regulations" sorts of things. You can disagree without thinking they're necessarily Bad People or worthy of boycotting their businesses. Indeed, it's the hallmark of…
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I was just arguing with someone about this over the holidays when they could not believe I would pass up on a Tesla even if it was free. Forget about Elon being and the company culture, there's practical reasons for me not wanting to own one of these even though I could afford one. Living in cold Canadian province, there would be no upside to owning one of these. Just more hassle. If given one I'd sell it probably fo…
As a former Tesla Model 3 owner (it got totaled from getting rear-ended) and now own a Ford Mach-E as well as a Toyota RAV-4 Prime (plugin hybrid), yeah I totally agree. Cold weather is the worst for EV cars. You have to spend so much energy keeping the batteries warm on top of spending more energy to keep the cabin comfortable.
Heck even the RAV-4 is a problem because it uses a heat pump instead of resistance heating, which means it can't heat the cabin in full EV mode when the temp is Not sure how you fix this problem, other than just continuing to improve energy density in batteries to where you don't think about it anymore.
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Isn't it basically the only logical conclusion at this point? If you don't like Musk, you don't like Tesla. If you like Musk, you believe what he says, and what he's been saying during his ascension to the White House is that EVs are trash. Aren't Teslas EVs?
When did Musk say that EVs are trash?
> When did Musk say that EVs are trash?
Politics is transitive. What Musk says is less relevant than what he does; what he's done is given anti-EV interests power. (In exchange for gaining his own.)