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Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by sieabahlpark »

janice1999 wrote: post #8
jsheard wrote: post #3

For those wondering, this uses cloud-hosted AI models. But it's completely free to use so Mozilla is just paying the cloud bills out of pocket. Maybe not the best idea given their increasingly precarious financial situation?

I never understood why Mozilla doesn't offer paid privacy respecting services (outside basic sync that already exists) like email, cross platform password storage etc.

It's almost like... They're owned by Google and don't really compete or something...

Gee, fucking wow, it's almost as if it's plain a day why they've sucked as a corp, non profit, and culturally for a decade at this point.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by rubidium »

BadHumans wrote: post #14
neilv wrote: post #7

Huge heading: > Commitment to privacy Buried as the last sentence in a collapsed box at the bottom of the page: > For the current version, we are using a Mistral LLM (Mistral 7B) hosted within Mozilla’s GCP instance. And why is it "...Mozilla's GCP instance", not "We quietly send all your data to Google servers, and everyone pinkie-swears that's totally privacy-respecting"?

Any revelation that Google is siphoning data out of other companies GCP instances would be so earth-shattering I don't think it is happening.

Dude, the number of times outright lying has been done and brushed off in a 24 hour news cycle means it’s totally what they are doing.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by [deleted] »

jsheard wrote: post #3

For those wondering, this uses cloud-hosted AI models. But it's completely free to use so Mozilla is just paying the cloud bills out of pocket. Maybe not the best idea given their increasingly precarious financial situation?

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Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by HaZeust »

pilotneko wrote: post #6
mhitza wrote: post #5

> How does Orbit work? > Orbit is a Firefox add on that uses AI to summarize and answer queries about web content such as articles and videos. > When a user asks Orbit to summarize or query content, Orbit gathers the context (eg. text, images, videos, etc.) of the page the user is viewing and provides a summary or answer. Orbit works on websites including Gmail, Wikipedia, NY Times, YouTube, and more. > For the curre…

Mistral 7B has a context window of 32k. I use it in production for medical summarization tasks supporting appeals and physician advisory services.

Hope your prod is being done currently in this political... Climate.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by N2yhWNXQN3k9 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #16
pilotneko wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mistral 7B has a context window of 32k. I use it in production for medical summarization tasks supporting appeals and physician advisory services.

Why are you confident to use such a tiny model on something so critical? I would never use anything smaller than a 70B model for anything even vaguely medical related!

Its summarisation, who cares if its right as long as you feel confident after reading it? /s.

In my experience, even GPT-4o is terrible at revealing information from things longer than a few pages.

It might be an issue with dimensionality reduction in general though. If you think about it, you can't really take away much of what is contained within any given amount of text with text, unless the source was produced extremely inefficiently.

Producing outlines or maybe a form of abstract, it seems to be okay at, but you would never really know where it fails unless you read the entirety of the source text first to begin with. IMO, its not worth risking unless you plan to read the source anyway or its not really important.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by jsheard »

raincole wrote: post #23
BadHumans wrote: post #18

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I don't know how Mozilla even exists financially. Is it just that Google keeps them alive to avoid antitrust lawsuits against Chrome?

Pretty much, about 85% of Mozilla's revenue comes from Google in exchange for making them the default search engine. The ongoing antitrust case against Googles search business is threatening to make that deal illegal though, so ironically the attempt to break up one Google monopoly might incidentally kill Firefox and make another Google monopoly stronger than ever.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by BadHumans »

rubidium wrote: post #22
BadHumans wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any revelation that Google is siphoning data out of other companies GCP instances would be so earth-shattering I don't think it is happening.

Dude, the number of times outright lying has been done and brushed off in a 24 hour news cycle means it’s totally what they are doing.

I don't know what bit of news you are talking about. Unless you are just talking about the news in general which still doesn't prove anything. Any news that Google is stealing data out of GCP is not something you could just sweep under the rug in 24 hours.
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