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How I got promoted to staff engineer twice

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Re: How I got promoted to staff engineer twice

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What is the difference between a senior engineer and a staff engineer?

I guess a senior engineer might be "linked" to a single kind of tasks (backend, frontend etc) while a staff engineer has knowledge in a lot of domains and can be the "bridge" for projects that need people from many different teams

Nonsense.

Re: How I got promoted to staff engineer twice

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My own experience has taught me that titles are kinda dumb, and at times very very insular, which seems to be the case here. I went from eng, to sr eng, to principal eng, back to eng, making more money each time along the way across different orgs. Our industry has little to no real standards. Congrats on your promotion, but your title ultimately means little across companies.

My experience of speaking to people who make the decisions is that titles are absolutely a social signal that gets people to listen. Now, if what you say is too whacky, or you demonstrate a total lack of ability once given a chance, then you’ll lose that listening privilege. However, a more senior title can get people’s ears opened in the first place.

Re: How I got promoted to staff engineer twice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only one of them will lead you to promo. If you want to do double amount of work for nothing - that’s your right.

If you want to self-identify as a grifter-grinder that’s also your right…?

Not how I identify myself, but sure. What’s your point?

Re: How I got promoted to staff engineer twice

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My own experience has taught me that titles are kinda dumb, and at times very very insular, which seems to be the case here. I went from eng, to sr eng, to principal eng, back to eng, making more money each time along the way across different orgs. Our industry has little to no real standards. Congrats on your promotion, but your title ultimately means little across companies.

It doesn't seem like the blog post reflects your experience. Nor mine to be honest.

Staff engineers are mostly concerned with teams and projects moving forward, not writing code much.

On the other hand it's company specific. The same way armies differ in their pyramid and roles and responsibilities so do engineering teams.

Re: How I got promoted to staff engineer twice

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post #22
post #2

My own experience has taught me that titles are kinda dumb, and at times very very insular, which seems to be the case here. I went from eng, to sr eng, to principal eng, back to eng, making more money each time along the way across different orgs. Our industry has little to no real standards. Congrats on your promotion, but your title ultimately means little across companies.

My experience of speaking to people who make the decisions is that titles are absolutely a social signal that gets people to listen. Now, if what you say is too whacky, or you demonstrate a total lack of ability once given a chance, then you’ll lose that listening privilege. However, a more senior title can get people’s ears opened in the first place.

Titles are a great initial assessment as to how much of a politician or charlatan someone may be in the org.

Re: How I got promoted to staff engineer twice

#28

What is the difference between a senior engineer and a staff engineer?

It's company dependent but in general less coding, more management, more decision making power, more money, different responsibility.

A senior in one org may have the responsibilities of the staff in another one, it depends.

Re: How I got promoted to staff engineer twice

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post #22
post #2

My own experience has taught me that titles are kinda dumb, and at times very very insular, which seems to be the case here. I went from eng, to sr eng, to principal eng, back to eng, making more money each time along the way across different orgs. Our industry has little to no real standards. Congrats on your promotion, but your title ultimately means little across companies.

My experience of speaking to people who make the decisions is that titles are absolutely a social signal that gets people to listen. Now, if what you say is too whacky, or you demonstrate a total lack of ability once given a chance, then you’ll lose that listening privilege. However, a more senior title can get people’s ears opened in the first place.

One could argue that if you work in a place where people only start listening to you if you have the right title, that place might not have the best culture to begin with.

Instead of trying to climb those ranks, it might perhaps make more sense to look for a place where your input is valued based on its own merit and not based on what label is attached to your active directory entry.

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