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Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

#21

There's some folks that farm lobste.rs -> HN. Actually just one in particular. They're now in the top10 using this strategy due to how effective it is.

I hope they automated it otherwise I feel sorry for them.

I'm yet to see the first karma ATM, where they can withdraw their karma and live a life well earnt!

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

#22

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons: 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think. 2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label…

I agree. I've been on Lobsters for a long time, and the changeover from jcs to pushcx in site ownership really changed the moderation philosophy to lean heavily on editorial control of the site's contents.

I think any community has the right to run itself how it wishes. My major frustration with Lobsters is that it doesn't call out this editorial philosophy. The UX of the site and its legacy under jcs often give the impression that it's like any other link aggregator, so I would appreciate if the guidelines clearly called out the editorial approach of moderation.

That said, I would not use the word "inbred" here. They can run their community how they like and and we can dislike it, but insulting another community is generally counterproductive and petty.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lobsters is trying to do the same thing as Hacker News - avoid the Eternal September effect at all costs. It just has more direct and overt methods of maintaining and enforcing its culture than here, and that starts with barring the door against the rabble.

That's something that Slashdot does by limiting registrations. In contrast, by disallowing anonymous registrations (without a recommendation), Lobsters actively seeks out those who don't think differently at all, perpetuating its closed-mindedness.

They're optimizing for quality and civility - a certain standard of intellectual and emotional maturity - rather than controversy. Vetting through personal relationships and requiring reputation risk to let someone new in is an effective way to do that. Not every platform wants or needs to be a debate club.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's something that Slashdot does by limiting registrations. In contrast, by disallowing anonymous registrations (without a recommendation), Lobsters actively seeks out those who don't think differently at all, perpetuating its closed-mindedness.

They're optimizing for quality and civility - a certain standard of intellectual and emotional maturity - rather than controversy. Vetting through personal relationships and requiring reputation risk to let someone new in is an effective way to do that. Not every platform wants or needs to be a debate club.

On the contrary, quality is not intrinsic; it emerges from a healthy debate, something that isn't generally possible on Lobsters.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's something that Slashdot does by limiting registrations. In contrast, by disallowing anonymous registrations (without a recommendation), Lobsters actively seeks out those who don't think differently at all, perpetuating its closed-mindedness.

They're optimizing for quality and civility - a certain standard of intellectual and emotional maturity - rather than controversy. Vetting through personal relationships and requiring reputation risk to let someone new in is an effective way to do that. Not every platform wants or needs to be a debate club.

I think that's certainly a goal of invite systems but I don't think Lobsters really lands this. The quality of its discussion isn't much to write home about. It is much friendlier to some opinions over others but quality is not the discriminator. If you write a middling article on Rust I can guarantee you that you'll get more positive feedback than a good article on Go or on LLMs simply because of the opinion bias of the community.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

#26

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons: 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think. 2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label…

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Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

#27
post #4

A lot of these Lobster-specific links appear to be HN links, just a day or two delayed.

tech link aggregator trophic levels

Or more likely, they browse HN. Lobsters was created because some people disliked the moderation, not the content.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

#28

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons: 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think. 2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label…

> The community hates AI, and will downvote any valid submission just to drag you down to the lowest denominator.

There's lots of links and decent comments on those: https://lobste.rs/t/ai

I wouldn't describe it as anything close to "hates".

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

#29
post #21

There's some folks that farm lobste.rs -> HN. Actually just one in particular. They're now in the top10 using this strategy due to how effective it is.

I hope they automated it otherwise I feel sorry for them. I'm yet to see the first karma ATM, where they can withdraw their karma and live a life well earnt!

I think this one user is automated: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=todsacerdoti
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