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Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by jbarham » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:19 AM UTC

jpxxx wrote: post #4

Awesome! Now if Google can just distribute it beyond the initial five launch nations, create meaningful product support, rework a half million third-party applications, and answer growing malware concerns they'll have a sweet two-month sales window all to themselves before you-know-who barges into their market. I want one anyway.

> Now if Google can just distribute it beyond the initial five launch nations...

That's still much better than the Amazon Fire which AFAIK isn't even sold outside of the US.

See also this article from The Verge: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/28/3122716/nexus-7-internatio... ("The Nexus 7's most important price is £159, not $199").

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by adventureful » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:21 AM UTC

Am I the only one that thinks Asus isn't getting enough credit for the Nexus 7?

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by CamperBob2 » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:27 AM UTC

wavephorm wrote: post #7

Why after a few years is noone able to build a 10 inch tablet? I honestly don't care how good an Android tablet is, I'm just so accustomed to the iPad form factor that I won't give it up. To get me interested, an Android manufacturer needs to come up with a bezel-less 9" or 10" tablet with more screen real estate than the iPad.

Probably because Apple has sewn up all of the suppliers of high-quality 10" LCDs.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by rdtsc » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:27 AM UTC

bane wrote: post #12

As much as a I love the idea of a 7 inch tablet, there's just one thing that I really really use my tablet for and that's reading PDFs and old scanned comic books (guilty pleasure). The size of a ~10" tablet is more or less perfect for this despite the difficulties in handling the size of the device while in bed vs. a 7".

I can see a 10" being a little too heavy to hold after a while. A 7-8" is at the right weight / size to hold with one hand then switch to another without getting to tired too quickly.

Browsing is tricky as clicking on tiny links take more work, I find I need to do a lot more zooming in on the 7".

Another advantage of many 7"-ers is they can charge from the USB port. If for some reason you also have your laptop with you, you can often plug the tablet into it and it will charge (albeit much slower than from the wall charger), most 10"-ers cannot do that.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:27 AM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #15

georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I actually think that post-ICS and especially with Jelly Bean that Android is a superior tablet OS to iOS, at least for me. There's basically no feature on iOS that I miss when I'm on Android, but a few (eg. custom keyboards, the overall intent system, etc) that I miss when I'm on iOS. iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) and between that and iOS ec…

This is a google device, not a run-of-the-mill Android device (most of which are not on ICS much less JB). This point is very important - it makes the device more like an iOS one - more likely for updates, more fine touches as Google's cred rests on it. If we see other tablets of similar calibre to the nexus7, then yes - you can say "Android" compares/best iOS. But for right now, it's nexus7 vs. iPad or Kindle Fire.

So their tablet will be at a higher API level than pretty much every Android device out there. You still can't use the latest OS features as a dev unless it's OK for the Nexus 7 to have exclusive features.

Or maybe Google has another go at direct handset sales, or they withhold updates to maintain parity across their flagship products.

At the moment being a "Google device" doesn't actually guarantee you anything.

Edit: I didn't think that through. The OS version is already out of sync! I guess that is what they will do.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by nl » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:32 AM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #15

georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I actually think that post-ICS and especially with Jelly Bean that Android is a superior tablet OS to iOS, at least for me. There's basically no feature on iOS that I miss when I'm on Android, but a few (eg. custom keyboards, the overall intent system, etc) that I miss when I'm on iOS. iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) and between that and iOS ec…

This is a google device, not a run-of-the-mill Android device (most of which are not on ICS much less JB). This point is very important - it makes the device more like an iOS one - more likely for updates, more fine touches as Google's cred rests on it. If we see other tablets of similar calibre to the nexus7, then yes - you can say "Android" compares/best iOS. But for right now, it's nexus7 vs. iPad or Kindle Fire.

This is a google device, not a run-of-the-mill Android device (most of which are not on ICS much less JB).

I think almost all brand name tablets are on ICS now.

This point is very important - it makes the device more like an iOS one - more likely for updates, more fine touches as Google's cred rests on it

Have you actually used something like the Asus Transformer?

It's very, very good. I have a MBP, Linux Laptop, Windows Laptop, iPad2, iPhone 4, Galaxy S, an old 7" no brand Android tablet and the Transformer with a keyboard dock, and the Transformer gets the most use for general email/web browsing use.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by officemonkey » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:33 AM UTC

adventureful wrote: post #22

Am I the only one that thinks Asus isn't getting enough credit for the Nexus 7?

Actually, most reviews I've seen specifically mention Asus. Seems like they're in a winning situation: they're just about the only people making a profit on the Nexus 7.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by Achshar » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:35 AM UTC

tuananh wrote: post #11

read the title and i know it's gonna be Siegler.

Well that's because it's his "line" of review posts. He has done many of these before.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by bluthru » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:40 AM UTC

adventureful wrote: post #22

Am I the only one that thinks Asus isn't getting enough credit for the Nexus 7?

Does their logo appear anywhere on the device?

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by alexbell » Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 5:43 AM UTC

nl wrote: post #26

r00fus wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a google device, not a run-of-the-mill Android device (most of which are not on ICS much less JB). This point is very important - it makes the device more like an iOS one - more likely for updates, more fine touches as Google's cred rests on it. If we see other tablets of similar calibre to the nexus7, then yes - you can say "Android" compares/best iOS. But for right now, it's nexus7 vs. iPad or Kindle Fire.

This is a google device, not a run-of-the-mill Android device (most of which are not on ICS much less JB). I think almost all brand name tablets are on ICS now. This point is very important - it makes the device more like an iOS one - more likely for updates, more fine touches as Google's cred rests on it Have you actually used something like the Asus Transformer? It's very, very good. I have a MBP, Linux Laptop, Win…

> I think almost all brand name tablets are on ICS now.

I thought so too. Some are. Shockingly enough, I believe the Samsung tabs they gave out last year at I/O are still on 3.x. Tried to update my coworker's before heading to I/O with it and ended up with a newer version of Honeycomb. :/