Why screw over all the developers who had been using App.net? I assume that their App Landing page developer service is going to retire if this new product goes.
Dalton Caldwell: Announcing an audacious proposal
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#22Seems odd to not actually use KickStarter. Won't running a homegrown fundraising platform distract from solving the messaging problem? And don't you have to make a case for something that KickStarter already spent a lot of time making a case for? (I was turned off when I first heard about KickStarter, and I still am, to a lesser extent, but I finally pitched in for two projects.)
From the FAQ: Why aren't you using Kickstarter? We wish we could, we
It's hard to see how it's different in any material way from Ouya, for example.
It's a project with a definite end milestone, with a product that will continue on after.
Did they actually ask Kickstarter?
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#23I love this idea, but the only reason I can come up with that you need half a million dollars to do it is that it's a pivot, and not a bootstrapped enterprise. If GitHub is being used as the example in this line of argument, then why not follow their lead and build something people need and raise money later? Wouldn't you then be even more likely to convince hackers — the primary community you're trying to serve?
What exactly do you mean by "follow Github's lead"? Github had a paid tier and was profitable for years (and then raised money to expand), which sounds exactly like the plan for app.net.
Github didn't crowdfund $500,000 before having a paid tier and being profitable.
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#24What pain point exactly is this trying to solve?
That twitter is ad-spammed? I'll admit I rarely use twitter, but I can't recall ever seeing ads on it. (I can, as a side note, recall how /slow/ twitter pages load.)
That twitter changes its API frequently and doesn't give adequate notice to the people who develop for it?
How exactly does a user interact with app.net? I signed up for a twitter account because I wanted to hear a lot about a beta for a video game. How does this work with app.net? Are only broadcasters paying members?
Kudos for taking on the big dogs, though.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly do you mean by "follow Github's lead"? Github had a paid tier and was profitable for years (and then raised money to expand), which sounds exactly like the plan for app.net.
Github didn't crowdfund $500,000 before having a paid tier and being profitable.
Fair point; I think I get what the OP was saying now.
But, from what I understood, with the current crowdfunding scheme you're basically pre-ordering membership.
NB: I'm not really sold on the product idea myself, just trying to understand the objections to the business model.
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#26Will there be a free tier?
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#27There's no real problem being solved here. What is he specifically helping you with?
All he cares about is hammering on about advertising, how other services don't live up to his expectations and his ego. "I'm responsible for this", "2.0", "advertising", "I'm responsible for this", "other people agree with me"... it gets very annoying within two minutes, let alone 7.
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#28I hate to be old school media here...but I wish this was announced on Monday or any other time besides Friday afternoon, when it will get less notice. Because it's a great announcement.
With 3 in 1,000 people clicking an ad on Facebook this is almost a non issue. What has unobtrusive advertising such as the adverts on facebook ever done to offend you?
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#30Seems odd to not actually use KickStarter. Won't running a homegrown fundraising platform distract from solving the messaging problem? And don't you have to make a case for something that KickStarter already spent a lot of time making a case for? (I was turned off when I first heard about KickStarter, and I still am, to a lesser extent, but I finally pitched in for two projects.)
From the FAQ: Why aren't you using Kickstarter? We wish we could, we
from http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines
"projects, projects, projects. As in all categories, Kickstarter is for projects that can be completed, not things that require maintenance to exist. This means no e-commerce sites, web businesses, or social networking sites. (Yes, this means Kickstarter wouldn’t be allowed on Kickstarter. Funny, but true.)"