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macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by FredPret »

xyst wrote: post #17

Apple just can’t add features to their OS without breaking existing ones. Probably used Apple Intelligence to QA the OS release. Steve Jobs would be disgusted at what his company has become. “Just works”, my ass

On the one hand, it looks like they're getting MBA'ed slowly: the product lineup is getting more tangled every year (just try picking an iPad) as they search for more ways to slice and dice the market.

On the other hand: they created Apple Silicon in recent years.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by zeusk »

a1o wrote: post #16
sam1r wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Well, Apple has a super weird bug tracker that you can report stuff but you are kept super in the dark - I remember reporting Safari bugs in the early days of WASM and it was zero communication until the bug got fixed.

It’s probably that they don’t want to risk leak any internal discussion.

The information from the public "tracker" is just forwarded to the internal Radar and that's a one-way street.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by haileys »

> This sucks. We think it sucks. You think it sucks. But we can't fix it: Apple has to do so.

And this is why I gave up on macOS several years ago now and moved to Linux.

It's not about which OS is better or worse. All software has bugs. It's about the empowerment to _do something_ about the inevitable bugs, rather than wait and hope that a fix comes down from above.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

nerflad wrote: post #19
xyst wrote: post #17

Apple just can’t add features to their OS without breaking existing ones. Probably used Apple Intelligence to QA the OS release. Steve Jobs would be disgusted at what his company has become. “Just works”, my ass

I understand why you're getting downvoted but I also am in some form of agreement with the sentiment/hope they don't lose sight that they are pretty much keeping the dream of the consumer UNIX vendor alive.

You don't matter to them. The "What's a computer?" ad shows what they care about. Do what they want and stay on the happy path. Otherwise, you're holding it wrong.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by perfectra1n »

jeffbee wrote: post #22

Gotta be honest, I find the idea of a bootable backup disk to be defective. What if it was an OS bug that wiped out your volume, and booting the backup does the exact same thing to the backup, because of the same bug?

The hope there would be that the backup is from before the OS bug reared its ugly head, so you can get what you need off of it. (or hope it doesn’t happen again)

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by codazoda »

jeffbee wrote: post #22

Gotta be honest, I find the idea of a bootable backup disk to be defective. What if it was an OS bug that wiped out your volume, and booting the backup does the exact same thing to the backup, because of the same bug?

Yeah, I don’t understand system backups anymore. I keep everything I care about in a single directory and clone that to the cloud. I no longer need to worry about backups outside of this. It’s easy enough to install a fresh OS and restore my directory. I’ll need to install a few apps but I’ll also have a nice clean system to work with.
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