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A new law in Sweden lets police seize unexplained luxury goods

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Re: A new law in Sweden lets police seize unexplained luxury goods

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Drug _consumption_ causes "drug related criminality?" The evidence is quite strong that _prohibition_ causes criminality. Consumption in the absence of prohibition requires no illicit market or cartels.

It isn't a contest. Both contribute.

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Drug _consumption_ causes "drug related criminality?" The evidence is quite strong that _prohibition_ causes criminality. Consumption in the absence of prohibition requires no illicit market or cartels.

Are you suggesting that if OxyContin was available without a prescription that we would see less theft, car breakins, vagrancy, indecent exposure, etc?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Drug _consumption_ causes "drug related criminality?" The evidence is quite strong that _prohibition_ causes criminality. Consumption in the absence of prohibition requires no illicit market or cartels.

I think you might be conflating lower risk drugs with cocaine and pals.

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"There is no consensus on the main cause of this surge in violence" If I am not misunderstood, the consensus in Sweden and globally is that the situation is caused by lax immigration policies and taking in too many immigrants who have not been able to integrate to the society.

This is the consensus. Not even left-wing parties are currently willing to openly condone mass immigration any more.

I don’t think the 2nd sentence proves the first.

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Are you saying that the violence is caused by the immigrants directly or indirectly? I can’t say for Sweden but in the Texas immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than citizens[1]. There doesn’t seem to be a good source of data for the US as a whole. 1. https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-o...

The profile of the average Swedish immigrant is different than the average US one. Many EU countries have counted and have seen immigrants commit disproportionally more crime.

Is there a study I can read for this?

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"There is no consensus on the main cause of this surge in violence" If I am not misunderstood, the consensus in Sweden and globally is that the situation is caused by lax immigration policies and taking in too many immigrants who have not been able to integrate to the society.

The problem is not immigration or too many migrants, but rather the fact too many of them lack educational background you need to be successful in modern Western society. Mostly it's young men who arrived as asylum seekers without much education who fail to integrate and get marginalized.

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post #22
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drug _consumption_ causes "drug related criminality?" The evidence is quite strong that _prohibition_ causes criminality. Consumption in the absence of prohibition requires no illicit market or cartels.

Are you suggesting that if OxyContin was available without a prescription that we would see less theft, car breakins, vagrancy, indecent exposure, etc?

Are you suggesting that OxyContin related addiction isn't itself known to be caused by effective pain medication like marijuana being illegal?

Re: A new law in Sweden lets police seize unexplained luxury goods

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It sounds like this law will be used to target drug gangs and organized crime. Regardless, I don’t see how it can be applied without discriminating against minorities. I highly doubt the woman at the airport, who the article states was stopped for having expensive jewelry, was white and Swedish. If the police stopped you on the street and asked how you were able to afford a MacBook or XYZ, would you be able to “prove…

> If the police stopped you on the street and asked how you were able to afford a MacBook or XYZ, would you be able to “prove” it?

Yes, because I have a legal occupation.

Re: A new law in Sweden lets police seize unexplained luxury goods

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post #5

"There is no consensus on the main cause of this surge in violence" If I am not misunderstood, the consensus in Sweden and globally is that the situation is caused by lax immigration policies and taking in too many immigrants who have not been able to integrate to the society.

Are you saying that the violence is caused by the immigrants directly or indirectly? I can’t say for Sweden but in the Texas immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than citizens[1]. There doesn’t seem to be a good source of data for the US as a whole. 1. https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-o...

Sweden is the opposite to Texas in many ways. One of them is that here immigrants do commit far more violent crime than natural citizens, on a per-capita basis.
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