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Why did clothing become boring?

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Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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The most boring is how black people tend to cloth, especially now where it gets cold black is the dominant colour on anyone.

It's likely just me but my eyes don't render black clothes people very well.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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In modern times clothing became boring precisely when Mark Zukerberg first revealed video of his walk-in closet having nothing but racks of identical gray T-shirts in it. Legend has it that from that day forward no striped or colored shirts have ever been seen in Silicon Valley. Then all socks went from white to black, oddly enough. The other clothing tragedy that happened around the same time-frame was that someone…

Do you cringe about clothes when you are visit other places too?

Adilettes (Adidas flip flops) und a fanny pack by Gucci are a legit clothing style in Germany. Maybe cringe for some, but state of the art for others.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fanny packs have never been in style. The jokes about out-of-style dads wearing fanny packs have been around since they were invented.

Oh they were definitely in style. They were/are a great way to carry stuff. Just look at all the yoga-tight pants on kids today with front pockets bursting at the seams. lol. These kids would LOVE to use fanny packs, but are too scared too.

I am so surprised everybody calls them out of style. Youth around here (German speaking countries) just throws them over the shoulder. This slowly creeped from 'dealer on the corner look' to the default norm.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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Why did clothes ever become NOT boring in the first place? Clothes are above all something that warms/protects/hides us from the world. Aesthetic contemplations are really just an afterthought. Also, "fashion" is one of the stupidest things ever, like oh hey, you should now replace your perfectly good clothes every season because someone says so??

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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post #20

I think there are a couple of important things missing from this article. One is that until relatively recently clothing served a very different function to that of today. In Europe, in our grandparents’ or even parents’ childhoods - as late even as the 1970s - housing and transport was very different to how it is now. Clothing was largely purpose-specific; people had far fewer clothes than today but those clothes ha…

Well you can make the case that people don't have to dress a certain way because we are much better insulated (metaphorically and literally) from the environment. And there are of course no sumptuary laws. So clothing can be more fun, if people want to of course - look at how music subcultures have incredibly varied ways of expression through clothing - metalheads, hiphopheads, punks etc.

I think you hit gold there, todays lack of interesting clothes is in my eyes related to two things:

- market logic made work clothes boring (think about guild clothing, the only interesting thing I see from time to time is the chimney sweeper)

- less people are inclined to feel part of a subculture and/or express that in their fashion choices

As someone who was a teenager in the 2000s, back then I had at least 6 different outwardly recognizable subcultures in my school class (Metalhead, Punk, Hiphop, Emo, Raver, Goth) and that was more or less normal within my generation.

My small brother and nieces were teenagers during the mid 2010s and in their class all people looked the same. Not only did they look the same, they felt the pressure to all look the same and get similar brands and so on. It just appears that it is a more conforming generation, maybe due tonthe role social media started to play for them. When I grew up social media existed but in a class of 25 maybe half would use it (maximum). And all social media algorithms were strictly chronological.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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I think there are a couple of important things missing from this article. One is that until relatively recently clothing served a very different function to that of today. In Europe, in our grandparents’ or even parents’ childhoods - as late even as the 1970s - housing and transport was very different to how it is now. Clothing was largely purpose-specific; people had far fewer clothes than today but those clothes ha…

Re: boots.

In a world dominated by animal-powered transport, especially in cities, boots weren't optional, and they were high to keep the muck from soiling your trousers / dress hems. (As I'd recently commented in another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42326115>.)

(Women if at all possible didn't walk streets, though of course that was a privilege largely restricted to the wealthy.)

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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post #25

Why did clothes ever become NOT boring in the first place? Clothes are above all something that warms/protects/hides us from the world. Aesthetic contemplations are really just an afterthought. Also, "fashion" is one of the stupidest things ever, like oh hey, you should now replace your perfectly good clothes every season because someone says so??

Your argument could be read as beauty not mattering. For a different POV, countless animals will risk their life to look fabulous/make themselves stand from the pack to leave a legacy.

Arguably fashion could be one of the most important thing to people.

PS: on a side note, even in technical circles where we could expect more detachment from appearances in general, a lot of comment will revolve around "X looks dumb". As in "I'd look dumb taking a photo with an iPad" or "who would wear VR googles around people and look like an idiot". People are social animals, and they care about how they look.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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post #18

In modern times clothing became boring precisely when Mark Zukerberg first revealed video of his walk-in closet having nothing but racks of identical gray T-shirts in it. Legend has it that from that day forward no striped or colored shirts have ever been seen in Silicon Valley. Then all socks went from white to black, oddly enough. The other clothing tragedy that happened around the same time-frame was that someone…

I just hate shoes. I'd go barefoot if somebody hadn't filled all the walking environments with broken glass, so flip-flops and huaraches it is. I love my 5-fingers, but they are too hot for general wear. Don't get me started on the harm "normal" shoes do to your feet.

There are excellent non-5F barefoot shoes that work well in hot environments.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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post #25

Why did clothes ever become NOT boring in the first place? Clothes are above all something that warms/protects/hides us from the world. Aesthetic contemplations are really just an afterthought. Also, "fashion" is one of the stupidest things ever, like oh hey, you should now replace your perfectly good clothes every season because someone says so??

Your argument could be read as beauty not mattering. For a different POV, countless animals will risk their life to look fabulous/make themselves stand from the pack to leave a legacy. Arguably fashion could be one of the most important thing to people. PS: on a side note, even in technical circles where we could expect more detachment from appearances in general, a lot of comment will revolve around "X looks dumb".…

However, we should use our intelligence to find ways to curb the extent to which clothing has become an obsession, becaue the clothing industry is unsustainable and creates enormous amounts of waste and pollution. With our big brains, surely we can find ways to differetiate and display our styles without so much waste? Or perhaps we should just go back to trying to make AI think like us...
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