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Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by jonathaneunice »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #11

Since Amazon are building their own frontier models, what's the point of their relationship with Anthropic ?

Different models have different strengths and weaknesses, especially here in the early days when models and their capabilities progress several times per year. The apps, programs, and systems based on models need to know how to exploit their specific strengths and weaknesses. So they are not infinitely interchangeable. Over time some of that differentiation will erode, but it will probably take years.

AWS having customers using its own model probably improves AWS's margins, but having multiple models available (e.g. Anthropic's) improves their ability to capture market share. To date, AWS's efforts (e.g. Q, CodeWhisperer) have not met with universal praise. So for at least for the present, it makes sense to bring customers to AWS to "do AI" whether they're using AWS's models or someone else's.

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by petesergeant »

andrewstuart wrote: post #12

It's not clear what the use cases are for this, who is it aimed at.

https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models seems to suggest Nova Lite is half the price of 4o-mini, and a chunk faster too, with a bit of quality drop-off. I have no loyalty to OpenAI, if it does as well as 4o-mini in the eval suite, I'll switch. I was hoping "Gemini 1.5 Flash (Sep)" would pass muster for similar reasons, but it didn't.

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by azinman2 »

brokensegue wrote: post #9
kajecounterhack wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TL;DR comparison of models vs frontier models on public benchmarks here https://imgur.com/a/CKMIhmm

So looks like they are trying to win on speed over raw metric performance

Either that, or that’s just where they landed.

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by mikesurowiec »

A rough idea of the price differences...

  Per 1k tokens        Input   |  Output
  Amazon Nova Micro: $0.000035 | $0.00014
  Amazon Nova Lite:  $0.00006  | $0.00024
  Amazon Nova Pro:   $0.0008   | $0.0032

  Claude 3.5 Sonnet: $0.003    | $0.015
  Claude 3.5 Haiku:  $0.0008   | $0.0004
  Claude 3 Opus:     $0.015    | $0.075
Source: AWS Bedrock Pricing https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/pricing/

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by dgfitz »

mystcb wrote: post #19
andrewstuart wrote: post #12

It's not clear what the use cases are for this, who is it aimed at.

I'd say, people that need it. Which could be the same for all the other models out there. To create one model that is great at everything is probably a pipedream. Much like creating a multi-tool that can do everything- but can it? I wouldn't trust a multi-tool to take a wheel nut off a wheel, but I would find it useful if I suddenly needed a cross-head screw taken out of something. But then I also have a specific cro…

> I'd say, people that need it.

Nobody needs Reddit hallucinations about programming.

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by bongodongobob »

griomnib wrote: post #8
baxtr wrote: post #3

As a side comment: the sound quality of the auto generated voice clip is really poor. No match for Google's NotebookLM podcasts.

If you haven’t seen it this may be the best use of ai-podcast I’ve seen: https://youtu.be/gfr4BP4V1R8

This is goddamn hilarious, thank you.
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