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Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphics with Linux support

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Re: Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphics with Linux support

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Given Intel's recent troubles, I'm trying to decide how risky it is to invest in their platform. Especially discrete GPUs for Linux gaming

Fortunately, having their Linux drivers be (mostly?) open source makes a purchase seem less risky.

Re: Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphics with Linux support

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> Intel with their Windows benchmarks are promoting the Arc B580 as being 24% faster than the Intel Arc A750 Not a huge fan of the numbering system they've used. B > A doesn't parse as easily as 5xxx > 4xxx to me.

They're going in alphabetical order: A - Alchemist B - Battlemage C - Celestial (Future gen) D - Druid (Future gen)

Re: Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphics with Linux support

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Bit disappointed there's no 16gig(or more) version. But absolutely thrilled the rumours of Intel discrete graphics' demise were wildly exaggerated(looking at you, Moore's Law is Dead...). Very happy with my A770. Godsend for people like me who want plenty VRAM to play with neural nets, but don't have the money for workstation GPUs or massively overpriced Nvidia flagships. Works painlessly with linux, gaming performan…

have you tested llama.cpp with this card on Linux? when i tested about a year ago, it was a nightmare.

A few months ago, yeah. Had to set an environment variable(added to the ollama systemd unit file), but otherwise it worked just fine.

Re: Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphics with Linux support

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I wonder how many transistors it has and what the chip size it is.

For power, it's 190W compared to 4060's 115 W.

EDIT: from [1]: B580 has 21.7 billion transistors at 406 mm² die area, compared to 4060's 18.9 billion and 146 mm². That's a big die.

[1] https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/arc-b580.c4244

Re: Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphics with Linux support

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Why don't they just release a basic GPU with 128GB RAM and eat NVidia's local generative AI lunch? The networking effect of all devs porting their LLMs etc. to that card would instantly put them as a major CUDA threat. But beancounters running the company would never get such an idea...

Re: Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphics with Linux support

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I'm really curious to see if these still rely heavily on resizable BAR. Putting these in old computers in linux without reBAR support makes the driver crash with literally any load rendering the cards completely unusable. It's a real shame, the single slot a380 is a great performance for price light gaming and general use card for small machines.

What is the newest platform that lacks resizable BAR? It was standardized in 2006. Is 4060-level graphics performance useful in whatever old computer has that problem?

Ryzen 2000 series processors don't support AMD's "Smart Access Memory" which is pretty much resizable BAR. That's 2018.

Coffee Lake also didn't really support ReBAR either, also 2018.

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post #15

I'm really curious to see if these still rely heavily on resizable BAR. Putting these in old computers in linux without reBAR support makes the driver crash with literally any load rendering the cards completely unusable. It's a real shame, the single slot a380 is a great performance for price light gaming and general use card for small machines.

What is the newest platform that lacks resizable BAR? It was standardized in 2006. Is 4060-level graphics performance useful in whatever old computer has that problem?

The newest platform is probably POWER10. ReBar is not supported on any POWER platform, most likely including the upcoming POWER11.

Also, I don't think you'll find many mainboards from 2006 supporting it. It may have been standardized in 2006, but a quick online search leads me to think that even on x86 mainboards it didn't become commonly available until at least 2020.

Re: Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphics with Linux support

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post #18

> Intel with their Windows benchmarks are promoting the Arc B580 as being 24% faster than the Intel Arc A750 Not a huge fan of the numbering system they've used. B > A doesn't parse as easily as 5xxx > 4xxx to me.

They're going in alphabetical order: A - Alchemist B - Battlemage C - Celestial (Future gen) D - Druid (Future gen)

Hey we complained about all the numbers in their product names. Getting names from the D&D PHB is… actually very cool, no complaints.
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