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EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Re: EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Post by hkpack »

garte wrote: post #15
isoprophlex wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The information warfare situation is highly asymmetric, and we seem to just let it fester on. The west doesn't have ubiquitous mind control devices deployed behind the great firewall. That this situation persists is a signal, to me, that our leaders aren't well equipped to deal with the realities of tech in 2024.

Our leaders do their job by trying to uphold our values like freedom of expression and equality and that other stuff. This makes us vulnerable and we have to adapt. But hopefully not by banning these things, but by educating ourselves about the risks and gains of using addictive technology. At least that's the theory, I guess. TikTok should be handled like an addictive substance. It and things just like it should be…

> but by educating ourselves about the risks and gains of using addictive technology

Teenagers are educated by these platforms instead, as people around have limited free time, while algorithms have all of it.

Re: EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Post by consumer451 »

naiv wrote: post #19
consumer451 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to be denying the fact that humans are easily programmed meat machines, even the best of us. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8116821/

You make the assumption that social media is the main source of truth for voters. But people are waking up and vote because of what they see with their own eyes.

OK, please stealman the argument for Georgescu's platform.

Re: EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Post by ben_w »

dauertewigkeit wrote: post #14

I cannot believe that people are calling for the ban of TikTok or X or any other social platform. It's just a gut feeling but it feels to me as though the more the economic situation in Europe deteriorates the more the continent descends into totalitarianism.

We have a lot of experience of, and fear of, propaganda in this continent. More so than fear of the lack of knowledge about government failures.

"Freedom from, not freedom to", to paraphrase a recent video I've seen by US migrants to France.

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Post by cbg0 »

logicchains wrote: post #18
infotainment wrote: post #3

It is a travesty that western countries haven't banned TikTok altogether.

It's a travesty that western countries have moved from trying to gain their people's support by improving their living conditions to trying to gain their people's support by lying to them, such that unrestricted discussion of the facts is such a threat to the governments in power.

If only it were facts being discussed, but social media is plagued with alternative facts(aka lies) and no mechanism of getting rid of it, as reporting doesn't do anything since social media companies just fake compliance but take no serious action against disinformation.

This is all from my personal experience reporting egregious fake information (the kind you can check with the first google result) on social media sites and the content still exists.

Re: EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Post by [deleted] »

naiv wrote: post #19
consumer451 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to be denying the fact that humans are easily programmed meat machines, even the best of us. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8116821/

You make the assumption that social media is the main source of truth for voters. But people are waking up and vote because of what they see with their own eyes.

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Re: EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Post by trabant00 »

A bit of context: the presidential candidate in question was predicted below 1% on all polls days before the election. He declared a campaign budget of absolute zero. He had no posters, no tents, no apparitions on TV, absolutely nothing. After a massive presence on TikTok in the last couple of weeks he won 23% of the votes, placing him first and wining a spot in the final elections where just the first two placed candidates run.

Currently the elections in Romania are in an total chaos. The Romanian Constitutional Court ordered an unprecedented recount of the votes, even though the count was sanctioned by all the parties through their observers. Also the country's Defense Council declared they have proof of cybernetic attacks which influenced the elections.

Re: EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Post by ahoka »

naiv wrote: post #16
switch007 wrote: post #5

That's certainly easier than sitting down and questioning your own decisions over the last couple of decades and wondering why people are voting in ways you don't like (For the record I'm not a Tiktok user and I think it's a net negative to society)

100% this. This would never have happened if it would have been a left wing politician obeying to the EU elites.

The EP never had a left wing majority, especially not in the last decade. What are you talking about?

Re: EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Post by pmezard »

switch007 wrote: post #5

That's certainly easier than sitting down and questioning your own decisions over the last couple of decades and wondering why people are voting in ways you don't like (For the record I'm not a Tiktok user and I think it's a net negative to society)

Like giving them a tons of money then be told to get lost?

Re: EU Summons TikTok CEO After Romanian Election Shocker

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Post by sofixa »

naiv wrote: post #19
consumer451 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to be denying the fact that humans are easily programmed meat machines, even the best of us. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8116821/

You make the assumption that social media is the main source of truth for voters. But people are waking up and vote because of what they see with their own eyes.

> But people are waking up and vote because of what they see with their own eyes.

Which part of this guy's platform do you think people voted for? In a staunchly pro-EU and pro-NATO country that has centuries of bad blood with Russia, with a walking and talking unstable living proof of it (Moldova), a pro-Russian Eurosceptic sounds like a weird choice

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