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Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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Re: Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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post #15

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> conventional artillery to turn St Petersburg to rubble Well, let's really hope not. (Let us hope that nothing of worth is ever destroyed, and let us not speak about destruction of universal goods lightly.) Edit: let us be even more clear (possibly in light of the dismissing feelers who just passed by). If you are into destruction of the cultural heritage, you are the enemy. Complexities just come later.

Putin is hoping and taking action to ensure otherwise.

That reinforces my point instead of changing it.

Destruction of the Worth = bad.

I.e. it is part of what should be fought.

Re: Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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Exceptionally well-armed NATO + JEF members, and Finland well within distance to use conventional artillery to turn St Petersburg to rubble. This is a public-awareness and support-building exercise rather than a real concern. This is like the RAF frequently issuing press-releases about intercepting Russian jets.

> conventional artillery to turn St Petersburg to rubble Well, let's really hope not. (Let us hope that nothing of worth is ever destroyed, and let us not speak about destruction of universal goods lightly.) Edit: let us be even more clear (possibly in light of the dismissing feelers who just passed by). If you are into destruction of the cultural heritage, you are the enemy. Complexities just come later.

Are human lives worthwhile to be destroyed? Are they not universal enough? Because I don't see much respect for those around the world... starting, but not ending there, with the russian soldiers themselves.

Re: Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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Unlikely. Putin is a product of russia, not the other way around.

Is that the case? I'm not the most knowledgeable, but I was under the impression that Putin is only capable of his level of influence to his KGB background. He definitely seems like a lynchpin to me, but I'd be interested in hearing more.

He's a lynchpin in the sense that he consolidated power, but it isn't as though he's some kind of genius. He's just an extraordinarily successful criminal/gangster.

In fact, his playbook of installing a puppet regime and having them "voluntarily" integrate into russia isn't particularly original — the USSR did the same thing with the Baltic states in the 1940s.

So, others around him could certainly take the reigns and continue the status quo.

For peace and prosperity in russia and for russians, there would need to be a deep reformatting and denazification of the country.

Re: Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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In retrospect, it seems like it was a bad idea for Western countries to assume that things were going to remain peaceful after the fall of the USSR. Glad to see the threat of war being taken seriously.

Unfortunately it not "just" about war now. The changing climate has also significantly increased the risk for major disruptions on social services such as fresh water supply, electricity, sanitation, and roads/track. We now also need to add those to the list of real risks to prepare for.

Re: Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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Unlikely. Putin is a product of russia, not the other way around.

Putin is a product of the KGB and USSR, and is a uniquely slick, effective global leader. a real life James Bond villain -- who won the game, and took over a country.

If you think he's slick, you should listen more attentively to his ̶h̶o̶r̶s̶e̶s̶h̶i̶t̶ speeches.

Re: Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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What exactly does defeat mean in that context?

Not be allowed to alter the borders of Europe (using military means, I guess they don’t have any other, now or in the foreseeable future).

Re: Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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post #23
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> conventional artillery to turn St Petersburg to rubble Well, let's really hope not. (Let us hope that nothing of worth is ever destroyed, and let us not speak about destruction of universal goods lightly.) Edit: let us be even more clear (possibly in light of the dismissing feelers who just passed by). If you are into destruction of the cultural heritage, you are the enemy. Complexities just come later.

Are human lives worthwhile to be destroyed? Are they not universal enough? Because I don't see much respect for those around the world... starting, but not ending there, with the russian soldiers themselves.

Some will be of the opinion that what may not respect cultural heritage may not have the same worth.

Sorry.

Edit: I will express it again, and to stress the point: some things are the fruit of the drive towards construction. Some other things may be destroyers. So, it all depends. No, we will not attribute worth to destroyers.

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