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Who scoops us their gas contract, the Netherlands? Or the sneaky Belgians?
Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
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Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#22It'd be nice to see stories about a western navy or two getting off its butt, and actually trying to discourage "accidents" which damage critical infrastructure.
Alas, some would rather let criminal governments invade sovereign countries, commit acts of global sabotage and murder dissidents all over the world rather than take any action at all to dissuade them. Peace through appeasement is likely to work as well as it has at any other point in history.
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Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#23It seems that the obvious solution could be Starlink-style meshes.
Can anybody comment on how fragile the Starlink protocol would be during a war? If its line-of-sight, presumably it would be hard to jam?
Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
at these points, these cable cuts are more dangerous than actual bombs
I'd prefer if the devs added resilience to network outage over having navies fight each other... Especially as navies are just fundamentally not constructed to defend extended things like a cable: starting a war over them is the best way to ensure every cable is cut.
Like it or not, somebody will have to do something about Russia, sooner or later.
Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#25It'd be nice to see stories about a western navy or two getting off its butt, and actually trying to discourage "accidents" which damage critical infrastructure.
Alas, some would rather let criminal governments invade sovereign countries, commit acts of global sabotage and murder dissidents all over the world rather than take any action at all to dissuade them. Peace through appeasement is likely to work as well as it has at any other point in history.
Right? Turns out having a spine is really annoying and inconvenient for the ruling class who now find themselves actually having to fend off interlopers.
Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#26It seems that the obvious solution could be Starlink-style meshes. Can anybody comment on how fragile the Starlink protocol would be during a war? If its line-of-sight, presumably it would be hard to jam?
Did Russia make a threat to Elon Musk at some point that it would take down Starlink satellites?
Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#27It'd be nice to see stories about a western navy or two getting off its butt, and actually trying to discourage "accidents" which damage critical infrastructure.
On the other hand, I'd rather see cables get cut than watch shells get lobbed between world powers.
There are quite a few response levels between "don't even bother monitoring the sabotage" and "start WWIII".
Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#28How much of this is news and how much of it is normal occurrences due to shipping or fishing?
Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#29It seems that the obvious solution could be Starlink-style meshes. Can anybody comment on how fragile the Starlink protocol would be during a war? If its line-of-sight, presumably it would be hard to jam?
The Swedish part of AMPRNet [0] has some ambitions to be a fallback in case of a crisis[1]. It seems cheaper and easier (a bit of an understatement) to deploy and repair, in case it gets attacked.
0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMPRNet
1: https://amprnet.se/images/Kriskommunikation-2014-01-27.pdf
Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted
#30It seems that the obvious solution could be Starlink-style meshes. Can anybody comment on how fragile the Starlink protocol would be during a war? If its line-of-sight, presumably it would be hard to jam?
Send some sharpnel on the same orbital altitude as Starlink and the whole constellation disappears.