they could have made the law:
>if you collect users data
>you must ask first
>add a yes or no button on a banner so they can pick
but instead the eu citizens were let down by the legislators
Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
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Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#22The internet is broken and I don't think it's only in the EU. In the last years I found myself just avoiding using websites I'm not familiar with or confident they're not filled with ads and trackers, I've set-up some aggregators and custom readers to find and get the information I'm interested in. If I open a page that has the cookie banner that blocks me from reading the content or forces me to agree I just close it, it wouldn't have been that important anyway.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> shame that the blame somehow end up on the regulation, rather than the companies who are the ones who introduce this cookie banner and "massive productivity loss" You can wish upon a star that humans weren’t the way we are. In the real world, this was a predictable response to a stupid rule. (And in some cases a necessary one. For example, for websites requiring a login or reliant on ads.) > know the best way of no…
> this was a predictable response to a stupid rule It was predictable that ultimately people would blame the regulation instead of the companies? Not sure I understand what you mean, and even if you meant what I think you meant, not sure what the point is? People blame all sorts of things all the time... Edit since you've added more to your comment > Proving compliance with GDPR is tedious That's my point. No need to…
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#24This is the EU in a nutshell. You also have quite a few people defending this. GDPR is basically exactly what Bill Gurley talks about here ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cO3-MLHOM Regulatory capture.
Also quite a few people (mostly from the north) fighting this idiocy.
In general: Southern+Central EU wants to build a new USA. Northern states meanwhile want to reduce the power of the EU. A common market is really the only thing we want.
UK had enough and quit.
Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#25This destroyed the world wide web, which was the major driver of the internet as a consumer application. I'm referring to the experience of intelligent & creative publishers sharing content openly on the web. This did far more to destroy the world wide web than ads or tracking
Has Facebook ever not been hidden behind a login? Because even if that doesn't count as "intelligent & creative publishers", it certainly set a much harder trend to get around than the banners.
Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
> shame that the blame somehow end up on the regulation, rather than the companies who are the ones who introduce this cookie banner and "massive productivity loss" You can wish upon a star that humans weren’t the way we are. In the real world, this was a predictable response to a stupid rule. (And in some cases a necessary one. For example, for websites requiring a login or reliant on ads.) > know the best way of no…
> this was a predictable response to a stupid rule It was predictable that ultimately people would blame the regulation instead of the companies? Not sure I understand what you mean, and even if you meant what I think you meant, not sure what the point is? People blame all sorts of things all the time... Edit since you've added more to your comment > Proving compliance with GDPR is tedious That's my point. No need to…
> predictable that ultimately people would blame the regulation instead of the companies
It was predictable this would result in disclosure/consent spam.
> No need to prove compliance if GDPR doesn't apply
If you are in the EU, GDPR applies. It may not be relevant. But you’re subject to it and its regulatory arms. (And if you have a competitor in the EU, it’s known practice you can waste time and money with requests and complaints.)
Both laws’ aims are noble. But they require tweaks. Starting with the cookie banners would be smart.
Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#27"All" the EU needs to do is to mandate adherence to the Do Not Track setting in browsers, but then vast swathes of businesses based on unwanted and unethical tracking would go bust, so we have this really shitty stalemate.
All websites we build adhere to the Do Not Track setting and don't even show a cookie banner if it's set. The only question is whether we should show a message to say that we're not tracking people because we see they've asked us not to! It's possibly a bit easier for us because we work primarily in the non-profit sector where ethics are perhaps a little higher up the agenda.
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#28Because I use fresh incognito mode for each browsing session, I have to click through those consent popups on every website I visit. Quite frustrating to say the least.
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#29Link is dead now?
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#30The whole thing is a colossal waste too, it was a law written by people who don't understand tech for special interest groups who don't want to actually make things better.
If you don't want a website doing something on your computer, you start with the browser, not the website.