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Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by spinningarrow » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 10:24 AM UTC

nunodonato wrote: post #14

Funny how these sort of solutions come up. I never understood the tab problem, I don't even use extensions to manage tabs, group tabs, or whatever. I like to keep my work focused, so apart from the 4-5 tabs I keep permanently open due to convenience (email, tasks, calendar, etc), I rarely have more than 3-4 others of stuff I'm working/researching. When its done, I close them. If I need them, I either bookmark or save…

I don’t have a problem != no one has a problem

EDIT: I have no tab management issues either, and my workflow is quite similar to what’s described above. But I’ve seen many people who have different needs.

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by kookamamie » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 10:27 AM UTC

Could have been a browser extension, no?

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by kookamamie » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 10:28 AM UTC

danpalmer wrote: post #5

Interesting that they chose Electron. Cross platform is certainly enticing, but at this point I'd say that browsers are relatively heavyweight pieces of software that require careful optimisation to do well, even assuming you outsource the engine.

A browser inside a browser inside a browser...

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by elashri » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 10:47 AM UTC

I do work in physics research so I open on average 20-30 arxiv and research papers per any session. This is combined with the usual searches for SO and docs (looking at you CUDA docs) which would be a lot of tabs for any gives session.

I used Firefox developer edition (it was better performance that vanilla Firefox for my m1 mac and this is just a feeling not backed up with any data) and now is using zen browser. It is a huge upgrade, now I have workspaces, split tabs and vertical tabs. All while still using Firefox and ublock origin.

I think this made tabs management good experience but ths most important factor is that I trained myself to really hate having tabs that I don't know which means that once I get past 10 tabs that browser starts to hide some information I got annoyed and then go close some.

But I really feel like zen browser is everything I want in a browser so far. I tried arc which is close but it is chromium based and it is resource monster and also closed source and required account to use.

One other useful thing is that once I got used to use my selfhosted linkding to actually bookmark things I want to explore, this helped with the tendency to use open tabs as things to read later.

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by andai » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 10:52 AM UTC

danpalmer wrote: post #5

Interesting that they chose Electron. Cross platform is certainly enticing, but at this point I'd say that browsers are relatively heavyweight pieces of software that require careful optimisation to do well, even assuming you outsource the engine.

I think Vivaldi (similar concept, though I haven't tried Horse yet) is also built with Electron. I discovered this because I found it frustratingly slow (the new tab page had a loading spinner!) and found out they made the UI in JavaScript.

It's a shame because I really liked the flexibility (I was a big fan of Opera back in the day), but since new tab is something I do thousands of times per day, that small lag was enough to make it a non-starter.

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by sixtyj » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 10:53 AM UTC

joelkoen wrote: post #17

You can achieve the exact same thing in Firefox using the Sidebery extension: https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery

Or this extension called Simple Tab Groups - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr...

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by andai » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 10:55 AM UTC

Has anyone used both Vivaldi and Horse? iirc vertical tabs (with nesting) were one of the main selling points for Vivaldi.

So my natural question when seeing Horse is "how much of this does Vivaldi do” (for free)?

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by nopelynopington » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 10:59 AM UTC

I was full of excitement for this when I saw it, until I realised it was a paid product. $60 is a lot to pay for a niche browser. I'm sure someone has built an extension to do this in Firefox or WebKit already

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by TomK32 » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 11:03 AM UTC

elashri wrote: post #24

I do work in physics research so I open on average 20-30 arxiv and research papers per any session. This is combined with the usual searches for SO and docs (looking at you CUDA docs) which would be a lot of tabs for any gives session. I used Firefox developer edition (it was better performance that vanilla Firefox for my m1 mac and this is just a feeling not backed up with any data) and now is using zen browser. It…

A simple 1L machine with portainer on it and connected by wireguard is what I run my self-hosted stuff at home. Five minutes later I have my own linkding. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Horse – The Organized Browser

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Post by Arech » Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 11:05 AM UTC

Firefox + Simple Tab Groups addon is all you need.

Seriously, a browser is much more than just another program. It has become a foundation of lots of computer interaction experiences, and therefore requirements to it, especially to its security, are super high. I wouldn't expect "professionals" understanding all of this would want to ditch vendors they trust just because they can't keep up with tabs... Never had this problem since I discovered Simple Tab Groups, btw...