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NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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post #4

Just a wild guess without anything backing it up and to get the guessing party started... something like decompression sickness? edit: love the answers, but would rather party.

Decompression sickness requires breathing air at higher than atmospheric pressure, which you only need to do if the external pressure is high (i.e. when diving - otherwise your muscles would be unable to overcome the pressure difference and you wouldn't be able to breathe).

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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NASA: Space flight is still something we don’t fully understand, we’re finding things that we don’t expect sometimes. This was one of those times, and we’re still piecing things together on this and so to maintain medical privacy and to let our processes go forward in an orderly manner, this is all we’re going to say about that event at this time Gizmodo: fuck their privacy!!

Respectfully, I think it's reasonable that the privilege of being an astronaut — there are a thousand times more applicants than astronauts — comes with the tradeoff losing some of the privacy afforded to private citizens.

It costs NASA (and to be blunt about it, taxpayers) an extraordinary amount of money to put each astronaut in space. The fact is, there have been fewer than a thousand people in space in all of history. Each illness, sickness, even basic health vitals is in a sense invaluable taxpayer-funded science, and if you don't want your health to be in the public domain, there are a lot of other jobs available (or, now that we have SpaceX, you could take a private rather than government flight)

I'm not saying NASA should be publishing a livestream at the hospital, but I do think there's a reasonable expectation that NASA will release the health issues in a respectful but informative way to the public.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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NASA: Space flight is still something we don’t fully understand, we’re finding things that we don’t expect sometimes. This was one of those times, and we’re still piecing things together on this and so to maintain medical privacy and to let our processes go forward in an orderly manner, this is all we’re going to say about that event at this time Gizmodo: fuck their privacy!!

Respectfully, I think it's reasonable that the privilege of being an astronaut — there are a thousand times more applicants than astronauts — comes with the tradeoff losing some of the privacy afforded to private citizens. It costs NASA (and to be blunt about it, taxpayers) an extraordinary amount of money to put each astronaut in space. The fact is, there have been fewer than a thousand people in space in all of his…

NASAs entire budget is 0.47% of the national budget in 2020. Spare me. Space travel is worth it.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

#24
post #8

NASA: Space flight is still something we don’t fully understand, we’re finding things that we don’t expect sometimes. This was one of those times, and we’re still piecing things together on this and so to maintain medical privacy and to let our processes go forward in an orderly manner, this is all we’re going to say about that event at this time Gizmodo: fuck their privacy!!

Gizmodo used to be owned by Gawker which went bankrupt due to a lawsuit brought on because they didn't care about a famous person's privacy. So this seems par for the course.

Gawker went bankrupt, because a public figure who felt that he was outed failed to win a lawsuit against them, so bankrolled someone else's lawsuit, with many questions unanswered.

Public figure, because Courts have ruled that billionaires are public figures due to their "outsized influence on government and public policy".

Outed by Gawker, despite his social media at the time regularly featuring photos of him shirtless on gay cruises. Good for him, but "outed" was a bit of a stretch.

I have many issues, not with Hogan's lawsuit, but Thiel's bankrolling of it:

Hogan had already reached a tentative deal with Gawker, including a percentage of profits and partial ownership.

When Thiel's paying the bills, and some of attorneys are in his full-time employ, whose interests are actually primary in their mind, versus whose should be?

After his lawyers became involved, Hogan then asked for 5,000 times more, including damages that are pretty hard to account for:

Economic losses (financial loss, to be clear, NOT "emotional distreess", which they asked for separately) of $50M due to the damage of the videos release being publicized (because Gawker didn't release it, someone else did, and Hogan had settled with them for 1/1000th of what he wanted from Gawker)...

Hogan's career earnings were $15M, and his net worth at its highest was $30M, and at the time of the lawsuit, $8M. Wrestlemania would typically pay about $150K. Obviously Hogan has endorsements, but I would love to see how the fifty million number was arrived at... endorsements for hair products, and WWF reruns?

The reason I asked about lawyers and motives, because after all this was settled, Hogan/Thiel's lawyers told him to drop just one of the claims, specifically the one that would have had Gawker's insurance pay out...

... in other words, having had a deal for part ownership of the company, Hogan threw that away and asked for far more in questionable damages, and then when awarded them, then dropped the only claim that would actually have allowed him to see any real portion of those damages.

I wonder how much Thiel paid Hogan under the table. And I thought a tenet of law / justice was being able to face your accuser, not to have them launch/finance puppet lawsuits against you.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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post #2

Andromeda strain on the one hand; gravity sucks on the other. There must be a psychological/neurological toll, like wearing prismatic glasses that invert your vision until the mind adjusts.

>> Andromeda strain

Can't see why it wouldn't be.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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post #4

Just a wild guess without anything backing it up and to get the guessing party started... something like decompression sickness? edit: love the answers, but would rather party.

My wild guess is seasickness. It's not supposed to happen to astronauts due to training and such, thus perhaps the unwillingness to say who. But tight quarters, seas were rough. You get the other astronauts checked out also just in case. I really don't have evidence for this though beyond wild speculation.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They’re still figuring out what happened. When they know, we’ll know. NASA does not have authority to unilaterally release medical information of its astronauts, so there’s nothing to say until the problem is identified.

Where does he say they don’t know what happened? He said they’re piecing things together, i.e. they’re still working on their story.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re still figuring out what happened. When they know, we’ll know. NASA does not have authority to unilaterally release medical information of its astronauts, so there’s nothing to say until the problem is identified.

- "NASA does not have authority to unilaterally release medical information of its astronauts" Just to clarify—and I'm not denying her right to choose to do that—the person quoted in the article as citing "medical privacy" is one of the astronauts who was hospitalized.

You’re honestly telling me, an astronaut who’s been on nasa tv talking about bodily functions in space with school kids for 6 months, suddenly clams up and doesn’t want anyone to know they got hurt when the SpaceX seatbelt failed?

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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post #4

Just a wild guess without anything backing it up and to get the guessing party started... something like decompression sickness? edit: love the answers, but would rather party.

My wild guess is seasickness. It's not supposed to happen to astronauts due to training and such, thus perhaps the unwillingness to say who. But tight quarters, seas were rough. You get the other astronauts checked out also just in case. I really don't have evidence for this though beyond wild speculation.

Then why scold SpaceX about safety?

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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post #15

Could it be an initially-unnoticed chemical leak in the Crew Dragon? That could explain how it hospitalized four astronauts at once, and also why they're uncharacteristically afraid of media coverage. They were evasive in a similar way when Starliner was first having issues—they're scared of the politics, or of the lawyers. edit to add: These spacecraft all use very toxic fuels, and this one has had issues with fuel…

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Sorry, but there's nothing about the NASA space program which has a "deal" to be transparent with the tax payer.

From being involved with high altitude spy planes and stealth planes during the Cold war through to thinking about the many satellites that are put into space that relates to national security and even the clandestine space plane, we have no idea what it's for...

There is simply no precedent to be upset about a lack of transparency from NASA. Some of that is national security. Some of that is to protect IP. Some of it is just because of the way governments work.

Factor in that actually it may relate to a private company's operational issue (SpaceX) there's even less reason for transparency.

I don't think we will ever know

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