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LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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Is there any way that a small ad buyer (a few hundred thousand dollars a month) can participate in the auctions directly, bidding in real time rather than going through a middleman that does the work for him (which is what LeanMarket seems to do)?

Why would you want to directly participate? It's a lot of tech and overhead for what?

I think what you really want is a good dsp that will help you leverage your first party data; maybe look at triggit?

Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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post #9

Is there any way that a small ad buyer (a few hundred thousand dollars a month) can participate in the auctions directly, bidding in real time rather than going through a middleman that does the work for him (which is what LeanMarket seems to do)?

Not without building your own bidding technology, or leasing bidding technology from a company like AppNexus.

Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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So you don't have to go thru "enterprise sales people" to get onboarded, does that means the company can't afford ad review? If they allow rich media for every one with 2cents, i can't think of a better platform to distribute malware.

This looks to be built on top of AppNexus which handles the creative review (there is a per-review cost).

Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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post #24

How is this different from AdWords?

LeanMarket's value proposition is probably not very clear to anyone who isn't familiar with real-time bidding. This Google whitepaper goes over the industry at a high level: http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrust...

One core component of RTB is the separation of supply and demand. This is different than the ad network model where a central hub connects the buyers and sellers who all work with the network. This "central hub" approach is true of AdWords; you can buy traffic from AdSense publishers through AdWords and no one else.

Through LeanMarket, you can buy impressions from publishers who sell through Google, Microsoft, Admeld, Rubicon, or PubMatic--none of whom LeanMarket has a direct relationship with.

Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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How's your mobile capability? Are you tied into any Mobile specific exchanges? I'm guessing you're running your own ad server... is it performing well for Mobile devices?

Judging the by the screenshots, it looks like a pretty clean interface. It really surprises me how convoluted RTB UI's are when it's really not a complicated workflow.

Great job, very impressive! There's a lot of potential in this space...

Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wondered the same thing. Maybe just block Flash totally and only allow HTML5 for rich media stuff? Other than that, I think it looks like a great idea (love the name) and could have a decent chance of going somewhere (assuming enough small biz firms are sophisticated enough to use it). Edit: or maybe the plan is that the ad exchanges (e.g. Rubicon) do the vetting, since they're in-between leanmarket and the publish…

Haven't touched ad servers for a while but do most ad serving platforms correctly track HTML 5 rich media? I know most of them are setup to correctly hook into Flash (Actionscript) and be able to automatically catch plays, replays, hovers, and other actions.

No. None of they aren. some consume a global variable with a link but that's minor and has irrelevant reasons for the security concerns here.

For richmedia, the publisher (website owner) just accepts to serve a Javascript snipped, which most of the time request more Javascript from places the publisher has no control whatsoever. And it has to be inlined on the page because that script uses document.write like crazy.

because of that, the script has total control of the page.

That's why there's no rich media in most free email providers. Yahoo is the only one but they render the ad in an crossdomain iframe and force the ad to behave via a richmedia api

Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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Such great domain name. Kudos!

Slightly confusing to be to be honest, Lean.com as the domain (which most likely cost a small fortune) but all the branding is LeanMarket. I'm sure they have plans for more combined branding, but its a bit amiss for me.

Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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Interesting. I'm wondering how this will differentiate from companies like SiteScout, which provide the same basic service. If the optimization engine is just that good, I'm definitely going to push more of my budget to it.

It's true that the vast majority of demand-side platforms are bidding on the same impressions, so the differentiation really comes from technology, service, and usability. For example, the main component of building a campaign on SiteScout is scrolling through a really long list of websites and entering individual CPM bids. Between LeanMarket's slick category-targeting UI and auto-optimization, I think we handle this…

CyrusL: could you send me an email (sam@rubiconproject.com)? Can't find an email from your profile.

Re: LeanMarket (YC S12) brings real-time bidding display ads to the masses

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post #9

Is there any way that a small ad buyer (a few hundred thousand dollars a month) can participate in the auctions directly, bidding in real time rather than going through a middleman that does the work for him (which is what LeanMarket seems to do)?

zorked send me a note at sam@rubiconproject.com. I'm happy to walk you through the industry a bit. We could definitely work with you.
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