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Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by JimDabell » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:38 PM UTC

Anthropic’s article: https://www.anthropic.com/news/github-copilot

GitHub’s article: https://github.blog/news-insights/product-news/bringing-deve...

Google Cloud’s article: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/g...

Weird that it wasn’t published on the official Gemini news site here: https://blog.google/products/gemini/

Edit: GitHub Copilot is now also available in Xcode: https://github.blog/changelog/2024-10-29-github-copilot-code...

Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41987404

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by kyawzazaw » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:40 PM UTC

jddj wrote: post #10

Sensible. Big part of competitors' (eg. Aider, Cursor, I imagine also jetbrains) advantage was not being tied to one model as the landscape changed. After large MS OpenAI investment they could just as easily have put blinders on and doubled down.

Jetbrains is doing its own LLM

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by Jerrrrrrry » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:41 PM UTC

breck wrote: post #19

aimazon wrote: post #9

"cuts" has to be the worse word choice in this context, it sounds like they're terminating deals rather than creating them.

"inks"

is there a slim chance at a title change?

or a fat chance?

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by dartos » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:42 PM UTC

ganoushoreilly wrote: post #6

campbel wrote: post #3

This is pretty exciting. I'm a copilot user at work, but also have access to Claude. I'm more inclined to use Claude for difficult coding problems or to review my work as I've just grown more confident in its abilities over the last several months.

I too use Claude more frequently than OpenAi GPT4o. I think this is a two fold move for MS and I like it. Claude being more accurate / efficient for me says it's likely they see the same thing, win number 1. The second is with all the OpenAI drama MS has started to distance themselves over a souring relationship (allegedly). If so, this could be a smart move away tactfully. Either way, Claude is great so this is a ne…

Yeah, Claude consistently impresses me.

A commenter on another thread mentioned it but it’s very similar to how search felt in the early 2000s. I ask it a question and get my answer.

Sometimes it’s a little (or a lot) wrong or outdated, but at least I get something to tinker with.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by thelittleone » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:43 PM UTC

ganoushoreilly wrote: post #6

campbel wrote: post #3

This is pretty exciting. I'm a copilot user at work, but also have access to Claude. I'm more inclined to use Claude for difficult coding problems or to review my work as I've just grown more confident in its abilities over the last several months.

I too use Claude more frequently than OpenAi GPT4o. I think this is a two fold move for MS and I like it. Claude being more accurate / efficient for me says it's likely they see the same thing, win number 1. The second is with all the OpenAI drama MS has started to distance themselves over a souring relationship (allegedly). If so, this could be a smart move away tactfully. Either way, Claude is great so this is a ne…

I'm the same, but had a lot of issues getting structured output from Anthropic. Ended up always writing response processors. Frustrated by how fragile that was, decided to try OpenAI structured outputs and it just worked and since they also have prompt caching now, it worked out very well for my use case.

Anthropic's seems to have addressed the issue using pydantic but I haven't had a chance to test it yet.

I pretty much use Anthropic for everything else.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by ninininino » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:44 PM UTC

The threat of anti-trust creates a win for consumers, this is an example of why we need a strong FTC.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by Tiberium » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:44 PM UTC

candiddevmike wrote: post #5

Wake me up when they support self hosted llama or openwebui. Wonder if we'll ever see a standard LLM API.

cursor.ai lets you use any OpenAI-compatible endpoint, although not all features work. And continue.dev does too, iirc.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by gdiamos » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:44 PM UTC

Github was an early OpenAI design partner. OpenAI developed a custom LLM for them.

It's so interesting that even after that early mover advantage they have to go back to the foundation model providers.

Does this mean that future tech companies have no choice but to do this?

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by scinadier » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:44 PM UTC

aimazon wrote: post #9

"cuts" has to be the worse word choice in this context, it sounds like they're terminating deals rather than creating them.

Common english lexicon should cut ties with the phrase "cut a deal"

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by SirMaster » Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 4:45 PM UTC

hshshshshsh wrote: post #16

candiddevmike wrote: post #5

Wake me up when they support self hosted llama or openwebui. Wonder if we'll ever see a standard LLM API.

Isn there no open source alternative? Like a plugin or something.

Not for visual studio 2022 unfortunately.