Wikipedia Put a Near Total Ban on Calling Gaza Health Ministry "Hamas-Run" • Hacker News Board

Re: Wikipedia Put a Near Total Ban on Calling Gaza Health Ministry "Hamas-Run"

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Post by weatherlite » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 7:15 AM UTC

mostcallmeyt wrote: post #15

p3rls wrote: post #9

And this over an article that gets on average 200 pageviews a day... I run my own wiki project and this sorta political bike-shedding would get you labeled as a troublemaker and then thrown out, though I envy how wikipedia can survive with this kinda democratization where the inmates are running the asylum and it mostly performs flawlessly. I step away for a day and my inmates have regressed to speaking in wingdings…

A lot of critical coverages against Wikipedia have indeed appeared lately. https://www.npr.org/2022/07/29/1114599942/wikipedia-recessio... https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4703442 https://dawnmena.org/saudi-arabia-government-agents-infiltra... https://forward.com/opinion/550600/wikipedia-holocaust-disin... https://slate.com/technology/2023/12/wikipedia-road-highway-... https://www.iranintl.com/en/202401124365 ht…

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Re: Wikipedia Put a Near Total Ban on Calling Gaza Health Ministry "Hamas-Run"

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Post by weatherlite » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 7:18 AM UTC

defrost wrote: post #14

halflife wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Drop the obfuscation by all means. Gaza Health is a Government body, the Government is Hamas, and no independant figures are available due to Netanyahu-led government locking out observers and delibrately targeting journalists within. https://cpj.org/2024/10/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-... That seems fair.

Hammas literally kills any Palestinian who is outspoken against it's regime, that's the main reason why there aren't any opposition in Gaza.

Re: Wikipedia Put a Near Total Ban on Calling Gaza Health Ministry "Hamas-Run"

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Post by mostcallmeyt » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 5:42 PM UTC

tivert wrote: post #20

mostcallmeyt wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of critical coverages against Wikipedia have indeed appeared lately. https://www.npr.org/2022/07/29/1114599942/wikipedia-recessio... https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4703442 https://dawnmena.org/saudi-arabia-government-agents-infiltra... https://forward.com/opinion/550600/wikipedia-holocaust-disin... https://slate.com/technology/2023/12/wikipedia-road-highway-... https://www.iranintl.com/en/202401124365 ht…

> A lot of critical coverages against Wikipedia have indeed appeared lately. Which is good, because irrespective of any particular political controversy, Wikipedia has way more goodwill than it deserves. People should look at it way, way more critically, and stop with the hagiographic praise.

Completely agree. In the long term though it's not surprising if the US Congress eventually set up a special committee to open investigations against Wikipedia and possibly other websites, because as can be seen below, some Wikipedia admins have been implicated in serial harassments against women and even actual employees of the USG.

https://www.reddit.com/r/justwikipediathings/wiki/index

Re: Wikipedia Put a Near Total Ban on Calling Gaza Health Ministry "Hamas-Run"

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Post by lysace » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 10:12 PM UTC

smegsicle wrote: post #12

pbarthelemy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t that obvious ? “The hamas-run health ministry is reporting 40,000 deaths” is a not-so-subtle way make the number questionable… But some will say mentioning hamas is fair, because it is factually true that it runs the government. No wording is neutral… all newspapers have style guides and guidelines and “elements of language”, the NYT ones for the US-funded destruction of Palestine leaked not so long ago, the on…

i think they just hate not seeing a magnet link for the nyt genocide enabling style guide

I bet you felt a real rush of pride after writing that.