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Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by abra0 »

voidfunc wrote: post #19
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Gonna be fun discovering what side effects it causes in 20 years tho.

The real question is whether these side-effects are going to be worse than 20 years of not taking it.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by mbostleman »

voidfunc wrote: post #19
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Gonna be fun discovering what side effects it causes in 20 years tho.

Exactly. I see all these breathless claims of new uses and how wonderful this drug is and wonder when the other shoe is going to drop.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by [deleted] »

voidfunc wrote: post #19
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Gonna be fun discovering what side effects it causes in 20 years tho.

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Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by Someone1234 »

voidfunc wrote: post #19
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Gonna be fun discovering what side effects it causes in 20 years tho.

It will likely save so many lives, it may still make sense to take it with those risks.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by Someone1234 »

ebiester wrote: post #12
declan_roberts wrote: post #8

How do you isolate this from the therapeutic benefits of simply losing weight and being skinny?

There are multiple confounding factors: * Blood sugar levels (or whatever this is a proxy for) * Weight * The changes the GLP-1 Agonists make to the body itself. While it is simple to say if you reduce the weight, you reduce the blood sugar levels, and so the GLP-1 is unnecessary, you can look at many accounts of using Ozempic where it talks about reducing the "food noise." That is, Ozempic makes it easier to eat the…

I keep making the comparison to nicotine gum/patches, but for food. I'm hoping that such a simple analogy might help some people move past their innate biases, but not much traction so far.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by mbostleman »

declan_roberts wrote: post #8

How do you isolate this from the therapeutic benefits of simply losing weight and being skinny?

And how do you isolate being skinny because you are regularly active and eat well vs. being skinny because you are sedentary and eat garbage but then chase it down with a drug?

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by encoderer »

voidfunc wrote: post #19
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Gonna be fun discovering what side effects it causes in 20 years tho.

You might be right, but it has been in testing/development for 20 years now.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by myprotegeai »

thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Yeah, what could go wrong with screwing with the neurochemical reward system of the entire population. Surely that will have no unintended side effects. It's literally a free lunch!

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by loeg »

thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Novo Nordisk's market cap is $500 B, mostly on the basis of GLP-1 drug profits, and the US' entire discretionary budget is $1,700 B. Even if Denmark would allow the sale, and even if somehow the US did not need to pay a premium to shareholders (typical in acquisitions), that would still be a very substantial expenditure.
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