Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
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Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#22There are just certain technologies my brain says "fuck, no" to. GNOME. The Great Banality Laser (whose official name was once Twitter). Visual Studio Code. The fullness of time usually proves my brain's initial impressions right, as it seems to be doing now with Visual Studio Code. I can still remember the monthly paroxysm of bliss that radiated throughout Hackernews, regular as clockwork, timed with Microsoft's mon…
I don't care for it being in the news though.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#23Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
[0]: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Codeium....
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Going back? When did they stop?
There was that bit a few years back where the HN folk saw Satya as the second coming of Microsoft and anything even slightly critical or suspicious of Microsoft was downvoted to oblivion as highly implausible. I think people are still coming down from that high. He's not the messiah, he's a naughty businessman! (Note: I shot my HN account then because the majority of the MS stuff on here was utterly intolerable for m…
There’s no in between.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#25Lloks like Microsoft is going back to it's old ways. I am not surprised tbh.
What's the harm here if the APIs are temporary and they don't have a history of elongating the lives of temporary APIs like this? They've stated the purpose of these "proposed APIs" and we have no evidence from the last decade to believe they'd renege on their stated goals.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#26Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
That’s not to say the general concern about GitHub-VSCode smothering competition isn’t valid, but I agree that it’s probably not what’s happening here.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#27I had to block all network traffic from VSCode that shit is spyware out of the box. Maybe the vi crew is actually onto something.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was that bit a few years back where the HN folk saw Satya as the second coming of Microsoft and anything even slightly critical or suspicious of Microsoft was downvoted to oblivion as highly implausible. I think people are still coming down from that high. He's not the messiah, he's a naughty businessman! (Note: I shot my HN account then because the majority of the MS stuff on here was utterly intolerable for m…
People on HN seem to be either very anti-corporatist or love to white knight big tech There’s no in between.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#29Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
Are other extensions like Codeium[0] allowed to publish under the same rules? I'm not saying your comment is incorrect, but unless Copilot competitors can get the same treatment, it seems extremely unfair and anti-competitive. [0]: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Codeium....
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#30Lloks like Microsoft is going back to it's old ways. I am not surprised tbh.
Now, coming back to private APIs, it's hard to know whether this is because Microsoft intentionally wants to keep competition out, or it is just hard to standardize/finalize APIs. I do know that VSCode development team takes extreme care when it comes to their APIs -- new features can take years before they are ready (most recenly coverage APIs, for example), and they don't want to release something when it's not ready, and I respect that. And to be fair, they have a number of "inline completion" APIs standardized as both VSCode APIs and LSP protocol (upcoming). I'm sure there is a lot to be desired, but it should be a nuanced discussion instead of simply "Microsoft bad".
(I am a VSCode extension & LSP author, not affiliated with Microsoft at all)