Thing is, if you are the CEO of AWS, you are fantastically well-compensated to be in meetings with people who suck up to you. Of course you think the office is a great place to do your work.
But that’s not what 95% of AWS workers do.
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#22At least they're still allowing working from home on Saturday and Sunday.
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#23Well, one way to make people to something they don't want to is by forcing them. "Do X, or quit".
However, doing this will only breed deep seated resentment. That can only be bad for the company and Amazon as a whole.
If the figures here are correct, 90% are unhappy with the decision and ~70% are considering switching jobs, it could become quite entertaining to watch this company implode from a distance. It will be the top talent who leave first, instantly creating a weaker company.
Its not even a good decision from an innovation/productivity perspective, studies are mixed and many that claim a productivity improvement in the office, if you look at who was involved in funding them, were actually funded by people or entities with a vested interest in office real estate.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one is making the working conditions unpleasant. The company which pays you to do work wants its employees to be in the office. If you don’t like it. Don’t work there. Looks like all the employees about to lose their work from home jobs are upset and downvoting.
If your work contract and agreement has remote office, guess what? That's a breach of contract.
I suspect Amazon know that and their contracts are worded accordingly.
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#25I wonder which tech company will be the first to take this too far and implode because of some easily-avoidable cataclysm. I think in some ways you could say Twitter / X already did although they are still limping along for now...
I remember reading a blog post many years ago that stuck with me, I don't remember the title of the post or who wrote it but it was essentially along the lines of "beware when companies start to take away the free snacks". It made a pretty convincing argument about how even seemingly minor changes like that start to signal a greater shift in the companies attitude toward how they want to treat and be perceived by the…
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#26They should be bold and make it six days a week.
Also set working times from 9 to 9. Also there is some strange perks there like food. Do you really need that much better than say some starving African?
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#27Banning remote work (or even just signaling the intent) is an excellent solution to ‘we effed up by hiring too many people in ZIRP/AI expectations era and now we need to get rid of them without paying severance’.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one is making the working conditions unpleasant. The company which pays you to do work wants its employees to be in the office. If you don’t like it. Don’t work there. Looks like all the employees about to lose their work from home jobs are upset and downvoting.
If your work contract and agreement has remote office, guess what? That's a breach of contract.
That’s a contract. The vast majority of people currently working from home do not have a contract explicitly stating it’s a work from home position permanently.
Those people who went from office to home during covid will have to go back to the office or they will be fired and receive nothing because they did not fill their role.
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#29I wonder which tech company will be the first to take this too far and implode because of some easily-avoidable cataclysm. I think in some ways you could say Twitter / X already did although they are still limping along for now...
It’s a fairly calculated move, as they know market for engineers isn’t in the best shape, so a significant chunk will keep working with no complaints. They also ramped up hiring heavily, if the number of messages I get from Amazon’s recruiters is an indicator.
Amazon is mostly known for burning out their engineers, right? It is a shame if they are doing these back door layoffs because it means more people will have to get churned through. Burning out can have some pretty negative long term effects, hopefully not too much human potential is sacrifices to the altar of slightly faster shipping.
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#30And what difference does that make?