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Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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stupid question: cuba is a hot country that supposedly receives plenty of sunlight throughout the year, why hasn't there been a solar initiative for every house or something along those lines?

Cuba has no money to purchase said solar panels.

China, the main seller of solar, has publicly stated that Cuba is not paying their bills

https://www.ft.com/content/9ca0a495-d5d9-4cc5-acf5-43f42a912...

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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Lead times for new infrastructure on the grid is an 18 month minimum. This is going to stay bad for a long time.

Couldn't China pull up a big floating power generation barge for them?

This is assuming their issue is the electricity plants and not fuel supply

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

#25

stupid question: cuba is a hot country that supposedly receives plenty of sunlight throughout the year, why hasn't there been a solar initiative for every house or something along those lines?

I don't think it's a stupid question. Cuba is increasing their solar energy, as far as I know they plan to increase their 200 something MW to 2 or 3 GW over the next 4-5 years. There are a lot of challenges in doing that though, one of them is the US. We build (or buy and upgrade) solar plants around the globe but we wouldn't risk the US market over going into Cuba. I doubt we're the only ones. Then there is the ques…

> This is a bit of a side note, but heat isn't a benefit. I know we tend to think of hot areas which get a lot of sun as good places for solar plants, but today's solar tech loses a lot of efficiency to heat in temperatures above 25 degrees celsius. By a lot I mean that we don't even build parks in areas that go above 20-25 degrees if there are no outside incentives like green tariffs or NGO support.

Would you be willing to post some references on this? I trust you know what you're talking about, but I'd like to read more. I thought 25 deg C or 77 deg F was the peak efficiency temperature and typical panels slowly lost efficiency on either side that. I didn't know of anywhere in the continental US that was always below 20-25 C.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

#26

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/where-to-watch-the-debateand-... Sanctions on Cuba have strangled their economy and spread misery among the population. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 US is almost alone in spearheading the embargo.

What can Cuba offer? Same problem with Haiti, what can Haiti offer? Not even China seems interested in paying peanuts for them (The way they are buying Nicaragua and Venezuela)

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

#27

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/where-to-watch-the-debateand-... Sanctions on Cuba have strangled their economy and spread misery among the population. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 US is almost alone in spearheading the embargo.

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Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

#28

stupid question: cuba is a hot country that supposedly receives plenty of sunlight throughout the year, why hasn't there been a solar initiative for every house or something along those lines?

Cuba has no money to purchase said solar panels. China, the main seller of solar, has publicly stated that Cuba is not paying their bills https://www.ft.com/content/9ca0a495-d5d9-4cc5-acf5-43f42a912...

Can you share the article with a non-subscriber?

Edit: the name of the article is catchy: "China is not Cuba’s sugar daddy’: ties between communist nations weaken"

Edit2: This is a summary of the FT article in spanish by a cuban newspaper. I suppose the most important arguments and data are included here https://www.14ymedio.com/internacional/china-senala-falta-vo...

Edit3: Thanks for the transcript. And someone shared the article here https://archive.ph/tz2Sf

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

#29

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/where-to-watch-the-debateand-... Sanctions on Cuba have strangled their economy and spread misery among the population. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 US is almost alone in spearheading the embargo.

What can Cuba offer? Same problem with Haiti, what can Haiti offer? Not even China seems interested in paying peanuts for them (The way they are buying Nicaragua and Venezuela)

Cuba's exports are $2B, Haiti's exports are $63M. They are a little different.
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