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Hilariously though they are paranoid about China and Chinese influence and go on about it all the time including Apple making stuff in China but have Huawei phones.
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It sounds like a fake story. Doesn't pass the smell test for me: > I just got a call from the owner of a hotel for which we provide hotspot service.... The owner could make no headway by explaining that the besneakered mascot was a cartoon character and was a daemon, not the Devil. And she feared upsetting the guest even more if she said that large portions of the same software are inside every Mac and iPad. What "ow…
Yeah obviously fake, who ever calls people. It's not the owner of the hotel, it's the person / company who setup their WiFi. Presumably on the wifi connection page there's a number to call for tech support. http://lariat.net/
"I just got a call from the owner of a hotel..."
The story is probably all true, even though it does have a bit of that "Elderly man set cruise control on at their RV then got up to make a sandwich" urban myth/chain letter vibe to it.
I remember my wife describing the funny look she got from our "traditional" next door neighbor as she took the latest edition of the BSD journal out of the mailbox. Never went any further than that. But if you choose to use a literal hell-themed demon as your product's logo, don't be surprised if it limits your user base.
Depends how backwards people are…
Well, I went to primary school with a heavy christian tradition and would probably have felt the same. I'm very happy that someone decided to tell me at about age 12 that perhaps it's not all literally true and some people have other ideas. Some not even involving concepts like eternal damnation, original sin, an omnipotent being that turns women into salt pillars but allows for children with bone cancer to exist, an…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/09/sex-depravity-...
And it was long kept a secret.
From where I come from there is a saying which goes like ‘Good thing you pulled the small devil’ (and not the big one, implied).
Besides satanism or sheitanism as far as I know, is only objectified as the horn-y thing within a Christian (ok, Abrahamic to include Old Testament and Islam) framework. A thing with horns and a fork is not necessarily within this framework.
Should you want to look further, go take a look at Kali or potentially many other Hindu deities showing here and there as mascots. These are no entities to joke with, and humility is not part of this tradition.
So I say, leave small devil do his wonderful work and all the wonderful people who have us FreeBSD and as consequence Darwin, iOS, the TCP/IP stack and many more.
The disguise of actual Satan, should we agree is a thing, is never so obvious. And typically has more humane look, very often wears Prada.
I am trying to grasp what I have just read. I may be able to understand if this is sarcasm probably
Having lived through the 90s as a young adult, I can assure you back then the Family Values crowd was just as annoying and censorious as the Woko Haram is today. 2011 seems a bit late for that kind of thing, but it's entirely plausible a few NPCs didn't get the patch yet.
I think the hotel guest was right to complain, and in my understanding of the Bible as a Christian I would say it is appropriate to refuse to do business with someone using such images, but also the image does not have any 'power'. That is, it is potentially immoral to associate with it, but the image shouldn't be 'scary' to any Christian, it's just a picture.
The FreeBSD Code of Conduct mentions being welcoming to people regardless of religion, but by using imagery that explicitly comes from religious depictions of evil in their logo they're blatantly being unwelcoming to a lot of religious people. Would they react differently (albeit more politely) if someone complained today, now the Code of Conduct exists, especially as 'fixing' this would require a full rebrand? I thi…
The etymology of “daemon” in the computer sense is Maxwell’s Daemon, a thought experiment involving a mischievous demon.
Even to an above average intelligence person, that’s a lot of explaining.
Most pre-modern peoples believed in demons, and most people believe images have power.
This seems like a violation of the best practices of logo design.
The FreeBSD Code of Conduct mentions being welcoming to people regardless of religion, but by using imagery that explicitly comes from religious depictions of evil in their logo they're blatantly being unwelcoming to a lot of religious people. Would they react differently (albeit more politely) if someone complained today, now the Code of Conduct exists, especially as 'fixing' this would require a full rebrand? I thi…
You have a fair point in general, but in this particular case I think the guest is overreacting, and accommodating such people borders being tolerant to intolerance.
2 days ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41818595
>>1. Change the logo from a demon to something else. (no matter if it is a play on the word "deamon", it is repulsive to many of the 2.4 billion Christians that can be potential users of FreeBSD)