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Perhaps Google need to emphasise that you can "ask" Google questions, not just make "searches".
If you watch normal people using Google, you'll notice that they do this already.
Heck, I suppose I do, too.
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#22Which one can give the answer a fraction of a second faster, or who's voice sounds less robotic means little to me. I am more interested in knowing about speech recognition capabilities, edge cases handling, frequency of getting something wrong, accented speech recognition capabilities, artificial intelligence maturity and depth and breadth of the knowledge base the systems use. But this video has focused on the wron…
In almost all of the things you mentioned, google has the advantage to make a better product. They have an enormous power to train their creation, to achieve a higher level in terms of speech recognition and understanding. I'm not saying that they are already there, only that they have what is needed.
But i really don't know how far are they willing too go, as taking it too far away could end up being counterproductive to them, as they earn money showing ads in their results, so they need people using their website. That's why they released chrome now in iOS.
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#23The brilliance of Siri isn't the voice interface or the replies using text-to-speech -- it's just the name. People feel they are talking to another person, not a phone or a computer or a google. People understand Siri approximates a person, so they can interact with it informally and somewhat personally. You see it in all the news coverage. People refer to Siri as a person. It gets into your brain. Have you seen norm…
Interesting point. And I am curious how the average joe would answer the following question:
"What is the difference between Google Now and Google Instant ?"
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#24As I posted on the freshte.ch blog, the commercial drive behind Siri is that you don't use Google when on Apple's platform. Google coming out with a competitor that stacks up feature-wise doesn't fix that for them because it will only run on Android. Google's going to miss out on a lot of search/ad revenue due to Siri in the future.
If its better, the question becomes: does Google release it on iOS as well, and will Apple allow them too.
However, i think the US readers are missing the most important aspect: how many people in the world can you serve?
This is a system selling feature during a crucial generation. The speed they can rollout new languages, will determine the world market and the long tail, which will prove crucual.
Currently, Google has the best infrastructure to do that, but Apple seems to care more. I live in Holland, for example. No siri, but at least we can buy content from iTunes. Google isnt selling anything but apps in its playstore.
I think whoever is able to actually give me all these features first, wins Holland. Why would it be any different in any other country?
There are markets up for grabs, and the first one to realize that fully, wins.
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#25Google's voice assistant was definitely impressive, and clearly had an edge on Siri in the tests he made, but to call it a "blowout" was a bit much.
Google's Voice Search seems faster, it's significantly more accurate (86% vs 68% for Siri), and it also comes with that smart Google Now thing, which learns things about you and recommends stuff for you to do based on your location, or behavior or whatever. Oh, and Google's "voice" sounds a lot more natural than Siri, too, which sounds more robotic.
Again slightly faster and slightly more robotic is not a blowout.
And that accuracy statistic you listed is wrong. It is for Google Search Engine which is different from what is on the Android phone. Also the fact that Apple can be in the same ballpark as Google despite not spending billions on it is pretty impressive.
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#26what happens with jellybean when you make an appointment for a time slot when you already have one at that time slot?
It doesn't make appointments, it only sets alarms. The functionality is pretty basic ...
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#27Nice to see a speed improvment, but I could live with a slow Siri if the AI was actually usable. It is broken all the time. If I say "Play music by Milk Inc." It might ask me if I want to buy milk. Or if I say "Play Acappella by Kelis." It will respond "Sorry, I can't find a capella in your music." Stuff like that. And it is borderline unusable at all if I'm out of breath, like when I'm running and handsfree controll…
I propose we stop calling machine transcription and fixed-field extraction "AI." Second? We all realize Siri is just a fancy Eliza with Internet access, right? We can resume calling something "AI" when it can order a flight for you from the Ryanair website without making any mistakes (I'm not even at that level yet).
But what you listed isn't AI either by your definition. It is just a series of predefined steps. The old Siri app had the ability to find and book a table at a restaurant. That's basically similar in complexity.
It's an interesting point though. At what point does it really become truly intelligent ? And I would guess that it would differ for each person.
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#28Here's a question: how well will the voice recognition features of the next version of Android compare with the next version of iOS? And what proportion of Android users will be able to upgrade to it?
Releasing a slightly superior clone of a feature in a rival product over six months after the first product shipped isn't enormously impressive, although it is more impressive than shipping an inferior clone of a product two years after the first product shipped, so that's definitely progress.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I propose we stop calling machine transcription and fixed-field extraction "AI." Second? We all realize Siri is just a fancy Eliza with Internet access, right? We can resume calling something "AI" when it can order a flight for you from the Ryanair website without making any mistakes (I'm not even at that level yet).
But what you listed isn't AI either by your definition. It is just a series of predefined steps. The old Siri app had the ability to find and book a table at a restaurant. That's basically similar in complexity. It's an interesting point though. At what point does it really become truly intelligent ? And I would guess that it would differ for each person.
Well, the ryanair "website" is a special case:
• To search for flights, you must answer a captcha.
• They forcefully push travel insurance, luggage, luggage insurance, insurance insurance, extra baggage fees, and useless priority boarding.
• Once you start your search, you must complete their 5-step ordering process within 3 minutes or you have to start over from the beginning of your search.
The system we will call "AI" would be able to go from you saying "Order a flight between Dublin and Barcelona on the cheapest carrier" to actually using their unusable website to complete your request.
I imagine the old Siri app was using opentable or some other API to book reservations. It wasn't navigating the forest of unstructured innate dumbness in the world.
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#30Google's voice assistant was definitely impressive, and clearly had an edge on Siri in the tests he made, but to call it a "blowout" was a bit much.
Google's Voice Search seems faster, it's significantly more accurate (86% vs 68% for Siri), and it also comes with that smart Google Now thing, which learns things about you and recommends stuff for you to do based on your location, or behavior or whatever. Oh, and Google's "voice" sounds a lot more natural than Siri, too, which sounds more robotic.
If you are referring to Gene Munster's research, then it does not pit Siri against Google's new voice search, but the plain old text search.