Realizing the dream of good workplace software

I use Teams on a daily basis and it's fine. That said I've never really used any other chat software for a similar purpose so have nothing to compare it to.

I'm not GP, but I also dislike Slack's lack of user focus and generally interrupt-driven workflow. Campsite sounds really great, and I may well be interested even at the $16/mo price point, but the website does a poor job of telling me much about the product aside from how great "posts" are. The big screenshot on the front page looks a lot like just a Slack clone.

The premise of better long-form discussion was intriguing enough that I went looking on YouTube for a review or demo of Campsite. No luck, I just got endless results for camping apps, even after many iterations on search terms.

Maybe you could post some videos or links on your page about how Campsite matches Slack features, and then how it exceeds them? There are so many issues with Slack, from blurry screen sharing to lack of syntax highlighting w/o snippets to the channel list mysteriously resorting itself constant, I would love something that could replace it that also made remote-first collaboration better.

Good questions. Firstly though, given llamaimperative's post above, I think I should clarify that I couldn't see triple the value of Slack just by browsing the website. And while Slack has a bazillion features, I'm also well aware that most of them are so badly thought through as to be worse than useless. For instance, nobody in our company even understands what Slack's "canvas" is, or why we would use it.

So, for your questions - yeah, I definitely think a $10 starter tier would help, but I guess that would depend on what gets left out. If the story you mention in question 2 is as good as you say, I'd imagine you'd convert a lot of those users to the fuller tier anyway.

So on question 2, definitely! I could only see on the site one screenshot of the entire UI (which looks lovely btw), so it's hard for someone coming in cold to see how it behaves - I've tried out a lot of collaboration apps over the last few months and there's been more than one that looked beautiful but actually interacting with it was suboptimal to say the least. Having agreed with every word you wrote in the OP, I suspect you've paid a lot more attention to the user experience than these apps had though.

The other thing I think that's possibly missing from the website is differentiators that set it apart from Slack - the better async comms angle is up front, but as a shopper looking for a Slack replacement I want to know if this is going to solve some of my pet-peeves with Slack, like, can I actually assign tasks to other users? Does it even have the concept of tasks? Am I going to be able to hook it up to GitHub in a way that's more useful than Slack does?

There's also not much on the site about the docs / wiki / evergreen content side of things - we use Notion as well as Slack, and in all honesty we only ever signed up to Notion because Slack is like an information black hole. The idea of both of those things in a single app is appealing, especially with the backlinks feature.

Thanks to both you and llamaimperative for engaging here, would have been easy to dismiss my comment as a grumpy edge-case.

Oh, and one last thing, some of our Slack usage actually is just team members chatting as we're mostly remote - is there a space inside Campfire for more disposable type conversations?

> is there a space inside Campfire for more disposable type conversations?

Yes absolutely. We have messages (DMs and group) as well as calls. We have a ton of "throwaway" conversations in messages.

fibery.io all day long :-)

It now has a thread view so you can replace tools like Slack with it, and entity-grouped notifications, so you can easily catch up on things if you are away for a few days. Plus it does a much better job of proper knowledge management, with references, proper relations, build a domain model of your business, per-entity and linked-entity permission models if you need that, etc. etc.

It provides integrations for existing tools, so migrating to it is much less big bang (sync in your JIRA tickets, Linear, Slack conversations, etc.).

Two-panel nested views on entities make navigating through status on task boards, projects, etc. a joy. You can build automations (create a new Slack channel and invite the assignees to it when I make an Incident, add a 'priority' labels when certain people comment or certain keywords are used", etc.).

Add meeting minutes, automatically convert the follow-up bullet points in those into Tasks for people and assign them, without ever leaving the same single page view.

You can use it a bit like e-mail, and a bit like JIRA, and a bit like Slack. And you can pick and choose those "bit like"s to best fit your needs.

We haven't completely replaced Slack with Fibery, but we've moved most of our more intentional communication into it. We no longer feel we need to "complete Slack" to catch up on the state of the world.

We love Fibery and are very happy customers. ♥ It's great.