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AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Fantastic! A great proof of concept on Linux - lots of AAA gaming is already possible on Mac with Crossover and/or Parallels or VMWare Personal, which is free! While I have a Steam Deck, gaming on Mac works for me - I refuse to play Baldurs Gate 3 on a controller.

I know it's an extremely un-Apple-like thing to do, but I really wish Apple would team up with Valve to work on Proton, and bring full Proton support to MacOS.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done!

It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux.

A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on Proton is just...dreamy.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

#23

Fantastic! A great proof of concept on Linux - lots of AAA gaming is already possible on Mac with Crossover and/or Parallels or VMWare Personal, which is free! While I have a Steam Deck, gaming on Mac works for me - I refuse to play Baldurs Gate 3 on a controller.

I know it's an extremely un-Apple-like thing to do, but I really wish Apple would team up with Valve to work on Proton, and bring full Proton support to MacOS.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Valve is still bitter about Apple deprecating i386 support back in 2019.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

#25

Fantastic! A great proof of concept on Linux - lots of AAA gaming is already possible on Mac with Crossover and/or Parallels or VMWare Personal, which is free! While I have a Steam Deck, gaming on Mac works for me - I refuse to play Baldurs Gate 3 on a controller.

I know it's an extremely un-Apple-like thing to do, but I really wish Apple would team up with Valve to work on Proton, and bring full Proton support to MacOS.

Bringing Proton to Mac would involve either Apple making amends with Khronos and supporting Vulkan, or Valve making the substantial effort to port Proton to Metal natively, or doing DirectX-to-Vulkan-to-Metal translation with MoltenVK. None of those sound very likely or optimal to me.

Besides, the main reason Valve is investing so heavily in Linux and Proton is so their destiny isn't tied to someone else's platform. MacOS is just another someone else's platform like Windows is, with the same threat of getting rug-pulled by a first-party app store that spooked Gabe Newell[1] into investing in Linux in the first place.

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18996377

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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This is super cool. So, wait, does this mean that gaming is better on Linux, on a Mac?

Yeah it has been for a while. The steam deck runs Linux out of the box. Valve and open source devs have put a lot of effort over the years on projects like Photon which is a translation layer for Windows games.

The question was "better on Linux on a Mac", meaning specifically Asahi Linux.

The correct answer is no, not yet anyway.

Linux running on x86 with proton is still the bee's knees for most games though.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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post #24

I noticed the URL was updated for this post. Previously it linked to asahilinux.org which showed an anti-HN manifesto from the HN referral. Curious as I haven’t seen this before. Seems it has been covered by previous commenters: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36227103

How can the site even detect where a user is coming from? Browsers leaking this information seems like a huge privacy issue to me.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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post #27
post #24

I noticed the URL was updated for this post. Previously it linked to asahilinux.org which showed an anti-HN manifesto from the HN referral. Curious as I haven’t seen this before. Seems it has been covered by previous commenters: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36227103

How can the site even detect where a user is coming from? Browsers leaking this information seems like a huge privacy issue to me.

Referer (misspelled in the spec) has been a part of HTTP from day 1.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can the site even detect where a user is coming from? Browsers leaking this information seems like a huge privacy issue to me.

Referer (misspelled in the spec) has been a part of HTTP from day 1.

Feels crazy this isn’t disabled by default
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