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Self-experiment with L-theanine: effect on sleep and cognition

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Re: Self-experiment with L-theanine: effect on sleep and cognition

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I tried an L-theanine supplement for anxiety. It had a notable short-term effect, but when I was off it my anxiety significantly worsened. Got better once I stopped taking it, so I guess it was a dependency kind of thing.

So, I would say that it definitely has an impact. Perhaps it would have worked better with a smaller dose.

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For my biology, L-theanine (200 mg) rounds out caffeine by stamping out the anxiety-inducing effect. By itself it just gives me a headache sometimes.

I don't even notice it without caffeine (coffee), but it has transformed coffee for me from something I had to be super careful with to something that is incredibly enjoyable and productivity-inducing without feeling sick and insane.

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#25

> This study was not blinded so there could be a placebo effect. Saved you a click.

My view on this is if you don't find any effect or a tiny effect (the case here) that is already useful information. For most supplements, my bet is that you won't even benefit from a placebo effect. And if you do find an effect, then you should do a more high-effort self-blinded test.

This seems reasonable to me too — first test feasibility, and then if it’s feasible let’s go do a more in depth study. But still, the feasibility result isn’t very interesting to external folks like us, and probably shouldn’t make the news. I think it should _just_ motivate the new study you mention

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#26
Been mucking around with huge doses of B Vitamins (especially B3/Niacin) and 5-HTP (a serotonin precursor). Both of those are rather, uh, effectful. 500mg+ Niacin will turn you red unless you're actually deficient. And you do not want to mess with the 5-HTP and alcohol at the same time, plus 5-HTP can cause some nasty side effects in some people.

Seems like a nice way to have some weird dreams while probably improving my health (high dose B vitamins seem to do great things for mental disorder and the only apparent downside is colorful piss and possibly turning into a cherry).

For people who don't do vita-drugs, there's always tea, coffee, chocolate, and matcha.

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#27
I don't really notice a change when I take theanine but the times when I have taken it consistently I notice I stop biting my fingernails.

I just realized this week I haven't been biting my nails and from this popping up thought about it, went and checked, and the new magnesium drops I started taking have theanine.

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fitbits and similar are fine for measuring awake vs asleep but really terrible at breaking up the stages

I've been curious about this. They all are reporting it, nowadays. I'm assuming they have reason to think they are getting better at it?

Well at the end of the day the underlying metrics are still just heart rate and movement which can only tell you so much.

Re: Self-experiment with L-theanine: effect on sleep and cognition

#29
post #17

For my biology, L-theanine (200 mg) rounds out caffeine by stamping out the anxiety-inducing effect. By itself it just gives me a headache sometimes.

Absolutely. This is what I came here to say.

Coffee gives me the anxious jitters. L-theanine turns that into focused alertness. I have reduced my coffee intake overall and supplemented my caffeine intake with a small glass of energy drink each day (not a whole can).

My daily supplements intake includes L-theanine (the brand depicted by the video thumbnail in the linked post), St Johns Wort and an IBS support supplement (NutraLife Gut Relief) that contains 2000mg of glutamine per dose.

All of that really helps with anxiety and depression. If I want extra energy, throw in some L-carnitine.

Re: Self-experiment with L-theanine: effect on sleep and cognition

#30

Been mucking around with huge doses of B Vitamins (especially B3/Niacin) and 5-HTP (a serotonin precursor). Both of those are rather, uh, effectful. 500mg+ Niacin will turn you red unless you're actually deficient. And you do not want to mess with the 5-HTP and alcohol at the same time, plus 5-HTP can cause some nasty side effects in some people. Seems like a nice way to have some weird dreams while probably improvin…

Good to hear they seem to be working out for you. I tried L-tryptophan a few years ago but discontinued rather quickly as I thought my sleep quality was going down (I think I was waking up during dreams more often). I guess 5-HTP would have been even more powerful.
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