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Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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Re: Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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post #18

Wouldn't this make legal counter-action cheap too? The robots fighting each other with a human referee(for now), the winner gets bounty. On a more serious note though, people not seeking justice due to complexity which leads to high costs is the real issue IMHO. Maybe the idea is that this is pushing people into finding a middle ground but it's also a known barrier to real justice. So some years ago when Turkey wasn'…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare

Re: Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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If suing became an ultra-easy one-click activity, I can see two things coming: 1. maybe that would force us to shape up our tort laws a little so that not everything under the sun was actionable and 2. maybe people and companies would stop misbehaving so much because they knew there was no longer a burden to suing them. A combination of 1 and 2 sound like a great outcome.

> everything under the sun was actionable

Not everything (in the US at least) is actionable, but you still need someone to review each suit and determine whether or not to throw it out.

Re: Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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If suing became an ultra-easy one-click activity, I can see two things coming: 1. maybe that would force us to shape up our tort laws a little so that not everything under the sun was actionable and 2. maybe people and companies would stop misbehaving so much because they knew there was no longer a burden to suing them. A combination of 1 and 2 sound like a great outcome.

I'd bet on 3) Courts respond by automating as well, so we get a constant background loop of suits and counter suits processing in nanoseconds.

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post #15

Compute is going to be king in the new world; if you have enough GPUs you can spam legal challenges. If you have more GPUs you can deploy those to take the other side and defend. As with DoS, the interesting cases will be where an asymmetry exists in cost of request vs response (or amplification is possible). In the short term it seems likely that the government will be on the losing side of this exchange.

Depending on jurisdiction, courts might require money - so those might become more favored by people and companies to be in.

Re: Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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If suing became an ultra-easy one-click activity, I can see two things coming: 1. maybe that would force us to shape up our tort laws a little so that not everything under the sun was actionable and 2. maybe people and companies would stop misbehaving so much because they knew there was no longer a burden to suing them. A combination of 1 and 2 sound like a great outcome.

Why? It will be the exact opposite - the hard part is always a human looking at this, unless we want verdicts done by machines as well.

This is most like going to gum up the courts.

Re: Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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This is actually insane. 120,000 comments! To a certain extent if our law is already so complicated that you need to hire a lawyer to understand it that is already a fundamental problem.

Simplify the rules, make it easier to understand and reason about. The computers should be able to determine if someone is breaking a law, not trying to check if it is a bad law.

We should be using computing power where someone can ask: is this legal ? Can I do this? That’s the true value to society.

Re: Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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post #8

It would be interesting to see AI lawyer arguing a case in court.

Some of the early lawyerly uses of AI have been no bueno.[0] Yet the legal need to produce knowledge from huge amounts of text is such an obvious alignment with LLMs... [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/29/canada-lawyer-... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/27/nyregion/avianca-airline-... https://www.npr.org/2023/12/30/1222273745/michael-cohen-ai-f...

I think most everyone would agree that using early LLMs (and personally I'd still consider current LLMs to be early) in legal contexts is ill-advised, at best. Circle back to this question in 5 years and I think the response will be very different.

Re: Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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If suing became an ultra-easy one-click activity, I can see two things coming: 1. maybe that would force us to shape up our tort laws a little so that not everything under the sun was actionable and 2. maybe people and companies would stop misbehaving so much because they knew there was no longer a burden to suing them. A combination of 1 and 2 sound like a great outcome.

What about the inverse problem? If you go to McDonalds and drop a glass pf coke, can auto-Ronald sue you to get back the cost of the cleaning?

Re: Gen AI Makes Legal Action Cheap – and Companies Need to Prepare

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post #18

Wouldn't this make legal counter-action cheap too? The robots fighting each other with a human referee(for now), the winner gets bounty. On a more serious note though, people not seeking justice due to complexity which leads to high costs is the real issue IMHO. Maybe the idea is that this is pushing people into finding a middle ground but it's also a known barrier to real justice. So some years ago when Turkey wasn'…

The laws as written only work because they're not applied perfectly and to every offence.

My standard examples of this are that there's around three times as many heroin users in the UK as that country's total prison population, and that perfect enforcement of road traffic regulations would mean the only people allowed to drive would be people like me who don't have a car.

I hope that things like this result in massive liberalisation of legal systems worldwide; the alternative, de facto not de jure*, is one law for the rich and another for the poor.

* "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread." - https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Anatole_France

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