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Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by bbor » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:01 PM UTC

mikae1 wrote: post #2

I'd be to pay a premium for a device like this if I wasn't limited to the manufacturers own app for collecting and interpreting data. As is? Nah...

I’m guessing this is part of their “startup-y-ness” that they need to sell the possibility of insane growth to VCs? Because just from an engineering perspective, I don’t see why it needs a monthly subscription to run a server crunching the numbers — couldn’t iOS and Android health apps handle all this data pretty well, with all-local processing? Maybe there’s more complicated ML pipelines involved in “adapting to your physiology” than I’m imagining… otherwise it seems like a random choice.

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by islewis » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:01 PM UTC

ValentineC wrote: post #20

mikae1 wrote: post #2

I'd be to pay a premium for a device like this if I wasn't limited to the manufacturers own app for collecting and interpreting data. As is? Nah...

It looks like Oura at least writes to Apple Health [1], so there's some portability. [1] https://support.ouraring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025438734-...

So instead of Oura owning your data, Oura _and_ Apple own it?

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by p0w3n3d » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:01 PM UTC

That's why I bought a smart watch with old LCD display - 20 days of battery at least

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by dmicah » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:02 PM UTC

islewis wrote: post #22

ValentineC wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like Oura at least writes to Apple Health [1], so there's some portability. [1] https://support.ouraring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025438734-...

So instead of Oura owning your data, Oura _and_ Apple own it?

You can export data from Apple Health to XML.

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by xhrpost » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:02 PM UTC

Would be neat for a smart ring to offer tap-to-pay but I don't think it exists yet.

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by mindwork » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:05 PM UTC

I don't need yet another subscription in my budget

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by _yb2s » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:06 PM UTC

mikae1 wrote: post #2

I'd be to pay a premium for a device like this if I wasn't limited to the manufacturers own app for collecting and interpreting data. As is? Nah...

You can export the data and analyze yourself- I do so with mine, but there is no open interface to connect directly with the device, you cannot avoid sharing your data with them.

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by _yb2s » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:07 PM UTC

bloopernova wrote: post #8

No silicone Oura rings? I'm not wearing any metal rings after reading about degloving and other horrors.

Since it's pretty much just a sleep monitor, I only wear mine while sleeping, and keep it on the nightstand. Much much better than the Zeo headband I wore for sleep monitoring many years ago.

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by aucisson_masque » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:08 PM UTC

> Oura Ring 4 starts at $349, with Oura Membership pricing at $5.99 per month or $69.99 per year.

Oura business team forgot they now have much more competition than they had 2 or 3 years ago.

Competitor that doesn’t charge a monthly fee, and competitor like Samsung that will be « good enough » for the average joe while being cheaper and without monthly fee.

I don’t see how they can remain profitable in the near future.

Re: Oura Ring 4

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Post by ValentineC » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 7:08 PM UTC

islewis wrote: post #22

ValentineC wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like Oura at least writes to Apple Health [1], so there's some portability. [1] https://support.ouraring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025438734-...

So instead of Oura owning your data, Oura _and_ Apple own it?

Apple claims that Health data is end-to-end encrypted, both in storage and transmission:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/111755