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UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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Re: UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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Some countries have constitutions that forbid giving up any parts of its territory, but apparently our government can hand over sovereignty without even a vote in parliament

The UN General Assembly and various UN courts have ruled that the UK had no sovereignty over the Chagos Islands in the first place.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-55848126

Re: UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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The British Indian Ocean Territory is probably better known in the tech world for its top-level domain: .io.

Which is owned by a hedge fund, and thankfully not part of this deal (so it's not at risk!)

It might well be at risk.

Extensive discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41729526

TL;DR: ICANN policy forces deletion if CC disappears from the ISO list of countries, with one famous exception (.su); but Mauritius could cut a Tuvalu-style deal to maintain it.

Re: UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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I'm a citizen of the Republic of Mauritius and, when this news was announced today, there was a general sense of relief. Mauritius has been fighting for its sovereignty over the Chagos Archipelago (with Diego Garcia being the largest island) for 56 years. Today, the Chagos Archipelago is part of Mauritius again and a treaty will (hopefully) soon be signed between the UK and Mauritius. From there, Mauritius will sign…

> From there, Mauritius will sign a lease agreement of 99 years with the USA so that the military base there can continue to operate.

Seems to be a lease with the UK (which then 'sub-leases' to the US?):

* https://www.reuters.com/world/britain-agrees-chagos-island-s...

Curious to know if there will be extension provisions: people think 99 years is a long time (which isn't wrong), but Hong Kong went back to China after that period of time.

Re: UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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post #21

Some countries have constitutions that forbid giving up any parts of its territory, but apparently our government can hand over sovereignty without even a vote in parliament

The UN General Assembly and various UN courts have ruled that the UK had no sovereignty over the Chagos Islands in the first place. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-55848126

Irrelevant.

Re: UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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> African nations began to speak with one voice on the issue, pushing the UK hard on the issue of decolonialisation. I wish the journalists had a little more sophistication on this. African nations began to push the UK on this because China and Russia understand that Diego Garcia is a critical port, and made investment + aid/ bribery + weapons (China / Russia respectively) conditional on forcing the issue.

Huh? I had the impression that the entire international community (sans UK, US & Israel) has been pushing for this for years, and quite insistently since the 2021 ITLOS judgement. Also, the US will keep it's base as part of the settlement.

It would be naive to believe that the Chinese will not build a competing naval base there, and encroach upon Mauritius's sovereignty over time.

Re: UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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> African nations began to speak with one voice on the issue, pushing the UK hard on the issue of decolonialisation. I wish the journalists had a little more sophistication on this. African nations began to push the UK on this because China and Russia understand that Diego Garcia is a critical port, and made investment + aid/ bribery + weapons (China / Russia respectively) conditional on forcing the issue.

I'd like to see your sources on this.

I expect it's a bit simpler than that: anti-colonial policies resonate deeply with African voters, and are very uncontroversial.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? I had the impression that the entire international community (sans UK, US & Israel) has been pushing for this for years, and quite insistently since the 2021 ITLOS judgement. Also, the US will keep it's base as part of the settlement.

It would be naive to believe that the Chinese will not build a competing naval base there, and encroach upon Mauritius's sovereignty over time.

Apart from this being pure speculation, where exactly would they build it? The archipelago has a tiny land area and the only atoll suitable for building a base is kinda already taken... Also, the primary strategic importance of Diego Garcia is to support US operations in the Middle East, where China has never interfered to any significant extent.

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See also "How the British Empire and U.S. Department of Defense Murdered an Island Paradise" ... "the story of the Chagos Islands, a paradise founded by former slaves that was wiped out by the British empire so they could lease it to the U.S. as an air base" [1] [1] https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236...

I'm unaware of the details but wasn't the island chain sold to the British?

Re: UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? I had the impression that the entire international community (sans UK, US & Israel) has been pushing for this for years, and quite insistently since the 2021 ITLOS judgement. Also, the US will keep it's base as part of the settlement.

It would be naive to believe that the Chinese will not build a competing naval base there, and encroach upon Mauritius's sovereignty over time.

They already have a base in Djibouti which is far more useful.

Re: UK will give sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius

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> African nations began to speak with one voice on the issue, pushing the UK hard on the issue of decolonialisation. I wish the journalists had a little more sophistication on this. African nations began to push the UK on this because China and Russia understand that Diego Garcia is a critical port, and made investment + aid/ bribery + weapons (China / Russia respectively) conditional on forcing the issue.

I'd like to see your sources on this. I expect it's a bit simpler than that: anti-colonial policies resonate deeply with African voters, and are very uncontroversial.

African voters, to the extent that they have any vote at all [1], have vastly more important things to care about than a tiny island in the Indian ocean. I would in fact bet a lot of money that vastly fewer than 1% of African voters, in any country, know about the Chagos Islands at all.

[1] Mostly, not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_Africa#/media/Fil...

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