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Dead Internet (2023)

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Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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post #7

Recently I needed to create a facebook account to join a group for some volunteer related work. I haven’t had a facebook account for probably 8 years. I knew the memes that facebook has become a bit of a wasteland but I was genuinely shocked by how bad it is. The “new account” experience is wild, having zero friends on an account just results in a torrent of spammy content. Sexist comics, AI generated garbage, just r…

Try youtube without an account or history. Even worse, on the smart tv in a hotel room.

The smart TVs in shared we-work like meeting rooms are a gamble now. At least it's usually something harmless like paw patrol.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, by now I think we've found our places where the internet is still fun. There's still some forums and chat rooms that keep things interesting without the constant barrage of advertising. I haven't. Internet is nothing more than an addiction for me. Internet is dead and misanthropic nowadays. It's soulless and corporate. It used to be fun, artistic, creative, and educational. Now it's neither of those, with…

I read Reddit and HN because they're there, but Reddit hellbans any account I try to make with no email, so I can't comment, and I'm gradually moving to Mastodon.

So many subs hellban young accounts to deal with spam. The only real way to get around it is create an account 6 months before you want to comment.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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Recently I needed to create a facebook account to join a group for some volunteer related work. I haven’t had a facebook account for probably 8 years. I knew the memes that facebook has become a bit of a wasteland but I was genuinely shocked by how bad it is. The “new account” experience is wild, having zero friends on an account just results in a torrent of spammy content. Sexist comics, AI generated garbage, just r…

I became interested in this clearly AI created "poorly" woman profile who would post just the most nothing questions "What's smells better, fresh baked bread or freshly cut grass?" That would have thousands of replies.

Least common denominator planet of doom.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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"At that golden fin de siècle of Y2K, where promised dreams felt limitless and infinite beneath the neon daze of confetti-striped streets, we looked ahead to a new age brimming with open expansiveness, optimistic"

GenX here, grew up in heyday. Drank the cool aid. Still dream wistfully about the past. The kids these days don't have any of the optimism of the internet revolution, they grew up with it and thus it is just another medium, something more to 'get away from'.

The enshitification is taking over everywhere.

Can enshitification be stopped?

It seems like recently the number of advertisements suddenly grew and now take 80% of the screen. Seems like not long ago there was one popup, now there is half dozen. And they move the screen around to cause text to jump around, unable to read at all.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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We could see it coming, right?, as usenet was taken over by spam and "binaries". https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/writing/rant.html "by God I KNOW what this network is for, and you can't have it" is painful to read today. Note this is from 1998. But why would we think the web would be any different?

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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A lot of social media, but especially FB, is being deluged with low-effort AI slop. Man-made horrors beyond your comprehension, and tens of thousands of bots upvoting or commenting the slop ("amen").

I see some interesting article on any of the major news papers, head to the comment section on their FB page, which is filled with pro-Trump posts from users with south-Asian or African locations. There's just bots absolutely everywhere.

To think that FB either can't, or just doesn't want to filter out this garbage.

I strictly use FB for the closes groups that have replaced many of the older forums, or local groups/pages for information and buying/selling.

EDIT: examples can be found here https://x.com/facebookaislop

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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post #5

This article expresses a common sentiment among those of us who grew up with web1. However, by now I think we've found our places where the internet is still fun. There's still some forums and chat rooms that keep things interesting without the constant barrage of advertising. This site is one of them, but there are a bunch of federated platforms out there now too that are fun to explore.

> However, by now I think we've found our places where the internet is still fun. There's still some forums and chat rooms that keep things interesting without the constant barrage of advertising. I haven't. Internet is nothing more than an addiction for me. Internet is dead and misanthropic nowadays. It's soulless and corporate. It used to be fun, artistic, creative, and educational. Now it's neither of those, with…

>I haven't. Internet is nothing more than an addiction for me. Internet is dead and misanthropic nowadays. It's soulless and corporate. It used to be fun, artistic, creative, and educational. Now it's neither of those, with extremely few exceptions like Wikipedia.

I feel like the reality is that every recommendation algorithm have been cranked up to 11 to throw garbage at you. The "good old internet" is not completely gone, all the thing you mentioned, fun, artistic, creative & educational are still there.

I'd even say that when it come to educational it have actually massively gotten better, and still is, *but it is getting harder and harder to find it*.

Google search is garbage, Youtube throw you shorts clickbaity shit, so does twitter, and Facebook is a wasteland. Yet the interesting blogs are still there, the youtube content creators are still producing educational content, artists are still producing stuff.

*Search* has gotten worse. So you simply won't find as much as you used to, and your old channel is getting filled with SEO garbage and clickbait recommendation system preferences.

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

#29
post #9

The dead internet theory is very quickly becoming a reality on Twitter. Every clout chasing bluecheck now has their account wired up to an LLM which replies to others posts automatically to boost their engagement - Tweets are so short that they barely cost any tokens, so they can generate those replies by the thousands for next to nothing. https://x.com/levelsio/status/1839992260341182647 https://x.com/levelsio/statu…

Stop feeding the troll.

And by troll I mean Elon

Re: Dead Internet (2023)

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> filled our heads with candied dreams of endlessly-spanning information super-highways

* https://www.wikipedia.org

* https://www.openstreetmap.org

* https://github.com

* https://data.gov

* https://fred.stlouisfed.org

* https://ourworldindata.org

* ...

Plus the countless documentation websites that we technical writers lovingly toil away at day-in and day-out.

If you implicitly focus on consumer websites, then sure, there is a lot to be pessimistic about. But what professional in any field would say that they had easier access to information 34 years ago than today? How can we say that the information superhighway is not "mission accomplished" in that case? Or maybe the claim is that the information superhighway was most efficient in 2005 and we have regressed since that peak? Are we just upset because some people in the 90s set the unrealistic expectation that the internet would fix literally every bad thing about society and we bought into that silly claim?

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