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Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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The article links to the "no copy?" site: http://www.kameli.net/nocopy/ which was highly influential in its own time... Demos are ultimately about impressing, also copying without being seen as copying - if you literally copy/paste other people's stuff, that makes you "lame", but if you quote/reference it, if you one-up it - if your rivals put out a demo with 200 bobs, you put out one with 240 bobs - then you look co…

Yes. Of course, there's plenty of skill to be developed in photographing, too.

And nowadays there's still plenty of skill left in coercing our limited AI generation tools to produce passable pictures, yet alone great ones. (But the field is evolving so far, that the achievements that still require skill constantly evolve, and the skills required also still shift.)

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Fair warning that some of the art is NSFW.

I know these types of images take hold in a 13-year-old boy’s mind and make him a lifelong fan, and for anyone who lived through that particular time and place, I understand the appeal. But for most everyone else, this is some cheesy artwork. I say that as someone who read more than my share of Edgar Rice Burroughs. The article author himself realizes that the image he is copying has no narrative. Many of the images…

I'm not making any commentary on the art thereof.

This is a forum hosted by venture capitalist investors and frequented primarily by IT professionals ("hackers"), unwittingly opening some NSFW material probably won't fly well in that kind of environment.

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Fair warning that some of the art is NSFW.

It is also interesting that when I ask ChatGPT to create an image inspired by Vallejo or Frank Frazetta, I get hit by content policy violation. I don’t see anything indecent about heroic fantasy. Oh well c'est la vie.

ChatGPT also refuses to make pictures of yoghurt. It's refined by a special flavour of prudes.

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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"I had learned to appreciate the color limitations during the old-school graphics competition at Evoke, where we could only use a predefined color palette. The first time I submitted an entry in 2022, I hated it. The second time, in 2023, I came to accept the limited color palette as a problem to solve. And by 2024, I actually started to enjoy the challenge." I've found that limitation in artistic mediums can serve a…

>limitation in artistic mediums can serve as motivation and even inspiration

Also known as: The quality of software is inversely proportional to the power of hardware.

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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The article links to the "no copy?" site: http://www.kameli.net/nocopy/ which was highly influential in its own time... Demos are ultimately about impressing, also copying without being seen as copying - if you literally copy/paste other people's stuff, that makes you "lame", but if you quote/reference it, if you one-up it - if your rivals put out a demo with 200 bobs, you put out one with 240 bobs - then you look co…

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Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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How did his art become the face of 80s fantasy? of GoldenAxe? of D&D? Anyone recommend other articles about him?

I never thought I'd ever have the occasion to mention this, but Golden Axe's artwork is due to Dermot Power: https://www.mobygames.com/game/199/golden-axe/promo/group-28...

I wonder if he was influenced by Vallejo.

https://dermotpower.com/

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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I don't think Vallejo's art was necessarily limited to the demoscene; in the late 70s/80s that style was very common on video game cover art. Related amusing article: https://www.globalnerdy.com/2007/09/14/reimagining-programmi...

And TTRPGs

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Fair warning that some of the art is NSFW.

It is also interesting that when I ask ChatGPT to create an image inspired by Vallejo or Frank Frazetta, I get hit by content policy violation. I don’t see anything indecent about heroic fantasy. Oh well c'est la vie.

It’s a copyright thing not the nudity.
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