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BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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I quite like Borg, others worth checking out are Restic and Kopia. Restic didnt have a UI for a long time, not sure thats changed...

Nope. No configuration file either. But they added compression recently. autorestic or resticprofile fill the gap well. Backrest does UI.

Backrest looks like a great find.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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is there a reason to use the borg encryption[1] over rclone crypt[2] or vise versa? 1. https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/2.0.0b11/quickstart.htm... 2. https://rclone.org/crypt/

How good at deduping is this when encryption is enabled? I was looking at rsync.net and it killed me that they don't support encryption in a sane way.

It's very sane: encrypt the bits, then send it to the host.

Curious what you think is not right with their methods.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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If you're looking for cheap online storage for your backups know this: A Microsoft 365 Single subscription comes with 1 TB of OneDrive space (Family subscriptions with 1 TB per person).

I've been using it with restic + rclone successfully for years. It's not very fast, but works.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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is there a reason to use the borg encryption[1] over rclone crypt[2] or vise versa? 1. https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/2.0.0b11/quickstart.htm... 2. https://rclone.org/crypt/

I would also wonder what the difference between this package and Restic is. as far as efficiency and encryption.

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Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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If you're looking for cheap online storage for your backups know this: A Microsoft 365 Single subscription comes with 1 TB of OneDrive space (Family subscriptions with 1 TB per person). I've been using it with restic + rclone successfully for years. It's not very fast, but works.

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Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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It's kind of ridiculous that there is better tooling for Kubernetes to sync files two ways than there is for the Linux desktop. Rclone is a maze of options, which vary based on version/distro. The configurator is a slow readline console script without enough information. The one decent GUI for Rclone has been abandoned, and despite being able to save "tasks", had no ability to just... schedule one every 10 minutes. And yet if you go into most distros and look at packaged Internet apps, or things on Flatpak, you will find 1,000 different open source GUIs for an RSS reader, BitTorrent client, or chat client.

I would love it if there were some kind of "Linux Desktop co-op", with a couple of staff. Users pay membership dues, vote on apps/features, and some devs get paid to develop it, in addition to "resume fame" that can translate over to a higher paying gig. But something tells me the Linux Desktop is so small and nerd-focused that we'd just end up funding more RSS readers and chat clients.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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It's kind of ridiculous that there is better tooling for Kubernetes to sync files two ways than there is for the Linux desktop. Rclone is a maze of options, which vary based on version/distro. The configurator is a slow readline console script without enough information. The one decent GUI for Rclone has been abandoned, and despite being able to save "tasks", had no ability to just... schedule one every 10 minutes. A…

Syncthing?

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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BorgBackup user here and really happy. It was a set and forget for me and after 7 years, the deduplicated backup is still working flawlessly each week. I recommend pairing it with borgmatic [1], which helps to design away some of the complexities of the underlying borg backup. [1]: https://github.com/borgmatic-collective/borgmatic

> set and forget for me and after 7 years

Please tell me you verify your backups now and then?

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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It's kind of ridiculous that there is better tooling for Kubernetes to sync files two ways than there is for the Linux desktop. Rclone is a maze of options, which vary based on version/distro. The configurator is a slow readline console script without enough information. The one decent GUI for Rclone has been abandoned, and despite being able to save "tasks", had no ability to just... schedule one every 10 minutes. A…

I'm not sure what you're on about. This started as a rant on rclone's CLI options, but ended on desktop Linux.

rclone is mostly the work of one guy. You can donate to him if you'd like. Making a GUI for a complex, rapidly evolving CLI is not an easy thing to do. There's probably a hundred different attempts to make a good interface for ffmpeg, but you can't please everyone.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Currently I'm just using bare rclone to backup to my own remote machines, but obviously this isn't very professional solution. Was thinking to add Backblaze B2 as a remote, but I guess using rclone wouldn't be a state-of-the-art solution here. After all, it isn't really a backup tool, is it? It has some built-in encryption, but it's a bit clunky, and I'd think a proper backup tool should automatically divide data into blocks of suitable size (instead of just creating file-per-file - to make it S3/B2 API-friendly), encode whole directories as tar (if needed to preserve links, for example), do deduplication, and whatever else are best practices I have no idea about, but which backup-proficient people probably invented long time ago.

Does anybody have a recommendation?

I briefly looked at restic and duplicati, but surprisingly none are as simple to use as I'd expect a dedicated backup-tool to be (I don't need, and kindda don't want GUI, I'd like all configuration to be stored in a single config-file I can just back-up to a different location like everything else, and re-create on any new machine). More than that, I've read some scary stories about these tools fucking up their indexes so that data turns out to be non-restorable, which sounds insane, since this is something you must be absolutely sure your backup-tool would never do no matter what, because what's even the point of making backups then.

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