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And the downvotes to prove my point
Downvotes? Give it enough time and one of them will be along to flag you.
Edit: happened while I was typing my message.
OpenAI as we knew it is dead
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And how is that you know Sam?
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#23A typical one sided, opinionated view from Vox that has made modern media the wasteland it is. The article seems to be intent on rewriting history. Apparently due to “Microsoft” Sam Altman came back to OpenAI after his ouster. There was also the added fact that the CTO Greg resigned, quickly followed by the leads of GPT-4, quickly followed by an employee petition that most openAI employees signed. Sam has clearly inspired quite a bit of loyalty from his team (or at least from his top lieutenants that inspired loyalty from the entire team).
Apparently OpenAI needs to be regulated more to ensure AI benefits everybody. As opposed to now where AI only benefits those that can pay 20$ a month? OpenAI has repeatedly stated their goal is “intelligence too cheap to meter”, which seems fine to me with respect to the ephemeral goal of “AI benefitting society”. If they make some profits along the way (which they apparently are not right now), that’s fine too. Compare this to NVIDIA, which is blatantly overcharging 30,000$+ for a single data center GPU when it could be 5000$, and I wouldn’t say OpenAI is even among the most greedy companies in the space.
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#24Money always wins. There’s a sort of irresistible momentum that happens when enough money pools together, and no person can resist it. You see it with apple’s customer-hostile app store policies that are a result of the money being too good, and now with OpenAI. I wonder how this problem ever gets solved at the level of society. Enough money pooling together always wins out over public interest.
AI is pretty much the culmination of technocapital, so frankly the idea that a nonprofit without deep government support would be the leading AI company is a little unrealistic in the first place. Especially considering the heavy capital requirements to even make this stuff functional in the first place. I think you’d need a government organization on the level of Manhattan Project to really compete, but unfortunatel…
None of those people were in the public sector until the project was created and drew them in.
But I agree, leaving this work up to shit eating PE firms and smarmy VC bros is asking for disaster.
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#25Other commenters are quick to point out that commercial interests always win, which is somewhat true, but misses an important point: OpenAI wasn’t originally a commercial company. This is basically someone stealing a nonprofit organization — structurally not dissimilar to someone robbing the funds a charity for children with cancer.
I don’t get why people shrug, or even celebrate this, instead of demanding jail time.
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#26From my perspective: another global & critical technology/business with an LGBTQIA+ person in charge -- there are worse things that can happen.
How is that relevant?
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AI is pretty much the culmination of technocapital, so frankly the idea that a nonprofit without deep government support would be the leading AI company is a little unrealistic in the first place. Especially considering the heavy capital requirements to even make this stuff functional in the first place. I think you’d need a government organization on the level of Manhattan Project to really compete, but unfortunatel…
None of those people were in the public sector until the project was created and drew them in. But I agree, leaving this work up to shit eating PE firms and smarmy VC bros is asking for disaster.
That’s a good point, you’d really need a massive government project to be started first in order to draw away the talent. Hopefully that becomes possible without a looming war as impetus…
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And the downvotes to prove my point
I don’t think anyone disagrees that companies only do what benefits their bottom line, that’s pretty much the consensus here. You’re probably downvoted because you’re comment comes off as very aggressive/lecturing.
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#29> The maker of ChatGPT promised to share its profits with the public. But Sam Altman just sold you out. How can we still believe that companies are not there to sell us out, really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EmstuO0Em8
> sell us out
What's the "us" in the sentence?
Companies exist to make their owners money, by providing goods and services to customers.
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Can you share a public video that demonstrates this? I've never seen it. Not saying it can't be true.
Here's a Reddit comment! https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the...
One could argue reclaiming a company from a multinational corporate conglomerate back into founder hands is hardly “evil”.