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Google Cache is fully dead

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Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Post by fngjdflmdflg »

8organicbits wrote: post #13
fngjdflmdflg wrote: post #3

I'm surprised it took them this long. I like many others used it to view paid articles for free. I imagine paywalled sites didn't like that and told them to shut it down.

Wasn't that NOARCHIVE? https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/679/how-do-i-...

I'm not so familiar with this area but my guess is that if you turned used noarchive, Google would not cache the page at all and therefore would not be able to use the text in your page as keywords for search results. So most sites therefore did not use noarchive because it improved discoverability/SEO to allow Google to cache your site. This is just a guess though and what I always assumed to be the case. This seems to be the case though because the cached versions would often contain the entire article for free, which makes no sense unless they were doing it for SEO. For example you could use this trick to read any nikkei article.

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Post by nashashmi »

What are the chances of wayback machine removing snapshots? I found an article on something that is far too taboo to talk about these days that was removed from the newspaper after having it there for more than 5 years. Out of public pressure.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Post by selectodude »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #19

I would presume Google still has all this data. They just will not let anyone else use it. Could this be an advantage that Google can use to train their models on but others won't have access? Google wants it to be more difficult to notice rewrites? Journalists to often have found valuable information with it?

I feel like the internet archive has taken a lot of that sort of use off of Google.

Unrelated: Google should probably think about a sizable donation to the Internet archive.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Post by pbreit »

jjbinx007 wrote: post #5

Is anyone at Google even aware how much this hurts their brand? I received an email from Google today with the subject line "Meet the new Google TV Streamer (4K)" The sender was Google Chromecast. Apparently it's some sort of streaming hardware they are selling for £99. I won't even consider buying one. How long until it's an obsolete brick? And when it's a brick, what are the chances I can wipe it and install my own…

My guess is it was a pain keeping up with the takedown requests.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Post by davisr »

sionisrecur wrote: post #17
jjbinx007 wrote: post #5

Is anyone at Google even aware how much this hurts their brand? I received an email from Google today with the subject line "Meet the new Google TV Streamer (4K)" The sender was Google Chromecast. Apparently it's some sort of streaming hardware they are selling for £99. I won't even consider buying one. How long until it's an obsolete brick? And when it's a brick, what are the chances I can wipe it and install my own…

The amount of people using the feature was probably a rounding error for them. This is probably true for all the services they kill.

s/people using the feature/profit left to extract/g

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Post by dageshi »

readyplayernull wrote: post #12

Nowadays my browser's home page is one of the LLMs. It's easier to get knowledge with an AI than the dead Internet to which Google contributed.

The internet may have declined but it's the LLM's that are finishing it off.

I'm still unsure how exactly the LLM's get fed going forward, it's not like the world will remain static once most of the human written websites have shuttered.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Post by heyoni »

pbreit wrote: post #25
jjbinx007 wrote: post #5

Is anyone at Google even aware how much this hurts their brand? I received an email from Google today with the subject line "Meet the new Google TV Streamer (4K)" The sender was Google Chromecast. Apparently it's some sort of streaming hardware they are selling for £99. I won't even consider buying one. How long until it's an obsolete brick? And when it's a brick, what are the chances I can wipe it and install my own…

My guess is it was a pain keeping up with the takedown requests.

Treat it like you do customer support and automate it. Or is that not allowed?
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