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The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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Of course the circumvention of the "chicken tax" is probably the most well-known example of tariff engineering: > Ford imported all of its first-generation Ford Transit Connect models as "passenger vehicles" by including rear windows, rear seats, and rear seat belts. The vehicles are exported from Turkey on ships owned by Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics (WWL), arrive in Baltimore, and are converted back into light tru…

See also "The Subaru Brat" https://www.wired.com/2014/12/subaru-brat/

Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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Of course the circumvention of the "chicken tax" is probably the most well-known example of tariff engineering: > Ford imported all of its first-generation Ford Transit Connect models as "passenger vehicles" by including rear windows, rear seats, and rear seat belts. The vehicles are exported from Turkey on ships owned by Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics (WWL), arrive in Baltimore, and are converted back into light tru…

I'm going to start compiling a list of stories to reply with when people say "environmental activists are too preachy/emotional about their work" and the Ford motor company manufacturing seats, seat belts, and windows, shipping them in vans to get out of a few thousand dollars in taxes per vehicle, and then shredding those things without them seeing a single ass in their entire existence after removing them from the vehicles for "recycling" is a great first item.

This legit made me ill and the people responsible for it, the people who permitted it, and the executives who oversaw it should all be in prison.

Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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Of course the circumvention of the "chicken tax" is probably the most well-known example of tariff engineering: > Ford imported all of its first-generation Ford Transit Connect models as "passenger vehicles" by including rear windows, rear seats, and rear seat belts. The vehicles are exported from Turkey on ships owned by Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics (WWL), arrive in Baltimore, and are converted back into light tru…

It's also why converse shoes have a little fuzzy later of material on the bottom, they import them as slippers instead of shoes.

Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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post #13

I work in a different industry (but still manufacturing) and it's mind boggling how much brain power and employee time is devoted to "correctly" interacting with the customs and importing system. I wouldn't be surprised if 30% to 40% of the total man hours at some companies are spent directly or indirectly related to the HTS system. This includes products built in North America - you still need to do a huge amount of…

> US politics have destabilized so much in the last decade that the rules are constantly changing

Multiplying, too

Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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post #5

Even better is the shoes (like chucks) that have fuzzy soles to be classified as slippers.

Or how about the seats in Ford's transit vans? https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-p...

We had a scam in Poland decades ago, where companies could buy a station wagon with this metal grating between rear seats and the trunk [0], which was enough to classify the whole vehicle as a truck, which gave you tax breaks not available for passenger vehicles.

[0] https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/QCvk9kpTURBXy83N2RiNjQ1...

Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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post #17

A bit related: In the early aughts we bought a Porsche 911, which had a ridiculously tiny back seat. According to the dealer, it existed because two-seaters were considered sports cars and were therefore costlier to ensure. Worked out perfectly for us because our children were young, we lived at the beach, and driving them to school on the freeway was an absolute blast.

I highly doubt actuaries are dumb enough to allow this arbitrage at the insurance company’s expense.

> I highly doubt actuaries are dumb enough...

Sweetly naive

Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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Even better is the shoes (like chucks) that have fuzzy soles to be classified as slippers.

I've never understood why that works. They clearly aren't slippers. They aren't sold as slippers. Nobody looks at them and says "nice slippers". Chuck Taylor importing their shoes as slippers feels fraudulent.

The tarrif document defines slippers and having fuzzy soles meets the definition.

Saves a bunch of money, so I'm not sure why any (imported) shoes are sold without fuzzy soles.

Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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post #13

I work in a different industry (but still manufacturing) and it's mind boggling how much brain power and employee time is devoted to "correctly" interacting with the customs and importing system. I wouldn't be surprised if 30% to 40% of the total man hours at some companies are spent directly or indirectly related to the HTS system. This includes products built in North America - you still need to do a huge amount of…

I worked on my first (and my company's first) hardware product and the HTS regulations were absolutely eye opening. I lived my entire life without knowing about it until I had to actually deal with import/export of a product. It is mind numbing dealing with it. Correctly discovering, interpreting, understanding, categorizing, and conforming with the worldwide process is its own form of career specialization (and hell). No thank you, never again.

Re: The reason your Columbia shirt has a tiny pocket near your waistline (2019)

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Even better is the shoes (like chucks) that have fuzzy soles to be classified as slippers.

I've never understood why that works. They clearly aren't slippers. They aren't sold as slippers. Nobody looks at them and says "nice slippers". Chuck Taylor importing their shoes as slippers feels fraudulent.

Tariff law doesn't just look at the label on the box. Otherwise there would be bigger problems.
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