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Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by freeqaz » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:35 PM UTC

Nit picking a bit but I prefer btrfs even if it's slower. Easier to work with.

What bootloader is this using? Or is it just straight EFI booting?

I helped write a guide a few years back that still is what I do using systemd-boot. https://github.com/lunasec-io/lunasec/blob/master/docs/blog/...

How is Wayland support these days? I love i3 but I know Sway promises to be close enough.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by Levitating » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:36 PM UTC

elromulous wrote: post #4

This was the process I followed: 1. Downloaded EndeavourOS 2. Installed it as easily as Ubuntu Edit: the arch documentation is second to none

> the arch documentation is second to none

I am willing to argue that it's the best documentation of any distribution

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by Levitating » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:38 PM UTC

These types of posts are often more harfmul than helpful. ArchLinux already has proper installation instructions and those who cannot follow them aren't recommend to run it. The main installation issues the ArchLinux forum sees is from people following outdated third party installation guides.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by mixmastamyk » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:40 PM UTC

ggpsv wrote: post #9

elcapitan wrote: post #5

What's everybody's favorite distribution on the Frame.Work 13? Getting it next week, and toying around with Arch/Debian/Ubuntu/Suse/NixOS/etc in VMs while waiting for it. I think I'll have to throw a coin (or just take Debian).

Fedora has worked flawlessly for me.

Fedora was almost required on AMD framework for a while, because hardware was brand new and Debians were too old. Now with Mint updated, I'd recommend take Fedora or Mint and Cinnamon.

Beware, I just realized my AMD does not support S3 sleep. Too late to return.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by mixmastamyk » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:44 PM UTC

yndoendo wrote: post #12

I've had the same Arch installation between four laptops over 12 years. Boot from a USB Linux distro and enter command line. Partition the new laptop, setup disk encryption, rsync the file system via USB external enclosure, modify the ftab, crypttab, and refind.conf, reboot. Don't have to re-install any software or re-setup and sync any accounts.

Similar here, but I used a TB4 cable so didn't have to take out the storage.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by i_use_arch_btw » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:47 PM UTC

elcapitan wrote: post #5

What's everybody's favorite distribution on the Frame.Work 13? Getting it next week, and toying around with Arch/Debian/Ubuntu/Suse/NixOS/etc in VMs while waiting for it. I think I'll have to throw a coin (or just take Debian).

I use Arch, but I might be biased

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by semiinfinitely » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:47 PM UTC

Levitating wrote: post #23

These types of posts are often more harfmul than helpful. ArchLinux already has proper installation instructions and those who cannot follow them aren't recommend to run it. The main installation issues the ArchLinux forum sees is from people following outdated third party installation guides.

these days I ask chatgpt for help to install arch instead of using the docs which are designed as a gate keeping mechanism to discourage the uninitiated by making them feel stupid.

chatgpt just tells you how to do and turns out its really not that hard.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by scandox » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:50 PM UTC

semiinfinitely wrote: post #27

Levitating wrote: post #23

These types of posts are often more harfmul than helpful. ArchLinux already has proper installation instructions and those who cannot follow them aren't recommend to run it. The main installation issues the ArchLinux forum sees is from people following outdated third party installation guides.

these days I ask chatgpt for help to install arch instead of using the docs which are designed as a gate keeping mechanism to discourage the uninitiated by making them feel stupid. chatgpt just tells you how to do and turns out its really not that hard.

I really think that's unfair. The install docs are quite long but they try to give people options. It's not gate keeping to provide a lot of detail.

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by semiinfinitely » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:52 PM UTC

scandox wrote: post #28

semiinfinitely wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

these days I ask chatgpt for help to install arch instead of using the docs which are designed as a gate keeping mechanism to discourage the uninitiated by making them feel stupid. chatgpt just tells you how to do and turns out its really not that hard.

I really think that's unfair. The install docs are quite long but they try to give people options. It's not gate keeping to provide a lot of detail.

I actually agree that the Arch docs are absolutely excellent in their level of detail, precision and helpfulness. I also think its possible for them to simultaneously be a gate keeping mechanism and stand by what I said

Re: Installing Arch Linux on a Laptop

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Post by jaredhallen » Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 9:55 PM UTC

geoka9 wrote: post #17

yndoendo wrote: post #12

I've had the same Arch installation between four laptops over 12 years. Boot from a USB Linux distro and enter command line. Partition the new laptop, setup disk encryption, rsync the file system via USB external enclosure, modify the ftab, crypttab, and refind.conf, reboot. Don't have to re-install any software or re-setup and sync any accounts.

Same, but with Debian for almost 20 years. Don't remember how I did it before, but the last few migrations were just `dd if=/dev/sda.old of=/dev/sda.new` and then gparted to enlarge the root partition to fill out the new disk.

This is how I do it also. Sometimes if I feel like changing the partition layout for some reason, I partition the new drive first and use dd offsets to copy the partitions one at a time. And of course you may need to resize the filesystem(s) as well. Works with Windows, too, although I usually change the storage driver to some generic ATA or something first to prevent it from blue screening on the first boot. And sometimes with newer versions of Windows you have to fiddle around with bootrec and whatnot.