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Testing the Firefox Alternatives

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Re: Testing the Firefox Alternatives

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Post by heraldgeezer »

lolinder wrote: post #2

> You can totally still stick with Firefox… but remember to download userChrome.css from GitHub. And if you want vertical tabs, be sure to install Sidebery until Mozilla get around to implementing native vertical tabs. I'm a constant critic of most things Mozilla (as well as an avid Firefox user... there's a lot of overlap in that venn diagram) and most of what this intro rails against resonates, but I'll never under…

Because Edge, Brave and Vivaldi has GOOD vertical tabs and they made it native somehow so much be a very small userbase right??? :)

ALSO it is now native in Nightly anyway, so we won and it is good. :)

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Post by politelemon »

This part is misleading. It is possible to make the same point without having to make it sounds the feature has been introduced nefariously:

> Yes, I get that some people want it, and you can turn it off.

It is already off. You have to opt in to the 'experiments' area.

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Post by causality0 »

I wish someone would release a good mobile fork. Firefox Mobile probably has the worst UX of any mobile browser I've used since 2009 and I'm convinced whatever intern they have locked in a closet coding it doesn't use it themselves. It's as if they used a supercomputer to predict user behavior for the sole purpose of making sure their obnoxious purple toast messages cover the exact button you need to use and that they last exactly one second short of the time required to make you uninstall it in fury.

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Post by bad_user »

bloopernova wrote: post #5

One minor nitpick: Firefox has vertical tabs, they were recently added in version 131 nightly builds. (Blog was probably written before it was added) Also Edge/Vivaldi have sidebar/vertical tabs, but they don't nest which reduces their utility in my opinion. The Miller Columns view implemented in a recent HN post[1] would be great way to view history. Each column could be linked visually with its sidebar tab. I use m…

I'm using Brave.

Vertical tabs don't nest; however, you can group them using Chromium's native groups. In Brave, I can also assign custom keyboard shortcuts, so I have Ctrl+G for starting a new group, and Ctrl+T for opening a new tab in the same group.

I've also been a user of Firefox for years, and the tree-style tabs extension are all slightly broken, enough to make me disable them. I also never found much value in nesting.

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Post by Dwedit »

Librewolf ships with uBlock Origin preinstalled, however the default installation of uBlock Origin enables EasyPrivacy by default. EasyPrivacy blocks legitimate websites, and there is no recourse to try to have a false positive become unblocked. Because of this, I do not recommend enabling EasyPrivacy if you are installing the browser for another person, unless they are comfortable with changing extension settings to disable the filter.

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Post by cuu508 »

causality0 wrote: post #23

I wish someone would release a good mobile fork. Firefox Mobile probably has the worst UX of any mobile browser I've used since 2009 and I'm convinced whatever intern they have locked in a closet coding it doesn't use it themselves. It's as if they used a supercomputer to predict user behavior for the sole purpose of making sure their obnoxious purple toast messages cover the exact button you need to use and that the…

What are your main gripes?

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

I use ~10 desktops across the day (physical, remote and virtual). They all have Firefox (rel, ESR, nightly) as their primary browser. I also use of Ffx alts every day (presently Waterfox).

I co-use Ffx alts to segment browsing - and as a quick fix for when sites develop Broken Control Syndrome.

Outside of the Ffx ecosystem, I'm using Brave (today) to test Google products and deal with Google's passive-aggressive hostility to Firefox.

I had tried Opera before Brave but it felt like being trolled. Something is very wrong in that house.

Re: Testing the Firefox Alternatives

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Post by causality0 »

cuu508 wrote: post #26
causality0 wrote: post #23

I wish someone would release a good mobile fork. Firefox Mobile probably has the worst UX of any mobile browser I've used since 2009 and I'm convinced whatever intern they have locked in a closet coding it doesn't use it themselves. It's as if they used a supercomputer to predict user behavior for the sole purpose of making sure their obnoxious purple toast messages cover the exact button you need to use and that the…

What are your main gripes?

If I dismiss a tab the "you dismissed a tab" popup blocks the view of the next tab. If I full-screen a video, the "you fullscreened a video!" message blocks the entire video progress bar so I can't move forward or back. I don't need the damn browser to tell me what I just did. I was there. Adjusting the volume while watching a full screen video drops the whole browser into a 4mmx4mm picture-in-picture window on my home screen. Oh, and the bug where using the back button sometimes completely breaks the "view desktop site" button until I manually kill the app is still there.

Re: Testing the Firefox Alternatives

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Post by hk1337 »

I may get some naysayers for this, maybe because I'm on macOS and not Linux or Windows but...

Two features I love about Safari is:

- Pinch/Zoom to view all my tabs as windows to switch between tabs

- What at least appears to be total isolation between tabs when in private browsing mode. If I login to Facebook in one tab, then open up a new tab and go to Facebook, it will not see me as logged in.

Chrome nor Firefox have either of those features.

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