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We recently got rid of a four year old microwave where the magnetron turned on spontaneously and silently when the door was closed, runaway heating the box. Control panel, lights, turntable, fan, everything is idle. Manufacturer didn't consider this an interesting defect and refused to swap out-of-warranty. The lack of give-a-shit in appliances is becoming apparent.
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What was the model? I recently encountered something similar with a GE over-the-counter microwave. One day it stayed on after opening the door. I replaced the control module and the board in it looks exactly like the one in the OP photo (Midea with all of the same components), which leads me to think the fault is the same as the one described in the post.
Yep, the GE over-the-range model PNM9196SF3SS. GE is just a Haier badge since 2016. I'm not surprised by a Chinese company not giving a shit, but for a microwave magnetron to fire on its own feels like a sign of deep engineering rot. The only fix was to unplug it then swap the logic board. Once it happened again with the new board we threw it out.
Fast forward two years later, and the fuse tripped inside the microwave after I forget a bottle sterilizer overnight, on Christmas Day.
I said fuck this, and went and got a Panasonic NN-SG158. The twist was that it looked like it was a different version of the first GE microwave we had from the same OEM, but a little reworked.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
What was the model? I recently encountered something similar with a GE over-the-counter microwave. One day it stayed on after opening the door. I replaced the control module and the board in it looks exactly like the one in the OP photo (Midea with all of the same components), which leads me to think the fault is the same as the one described in the post.
Yep, the GE over-the-range model PNM9196SF3SS. GE is just a Haier badge since 2016. I'm not surprised by a Chinese company not giving a shit, but for a microwave magnetron to fire on its own feels like a sign of deep engineering rot. The only fix was to unplug it then swap the logic board. Once it happened again with the new board we threw it out.
The board that I replaced is a Midea MD1001LSE EMLAA5G-S3-K VER17. Not an exact match to the OP but in the same family.
I migrated our house to a "commercial" variant of the microwave oven [1] as I was tired of all the over-engineering and annoying patterns in modern microwaves. This microwave has exactly UI element other than the door - a digital dial that goes from 10s-6m. No start/cancel, no power level, no defrost, no program mode. I don't "cook" using the oven, only reheat or very rarely heat/boil small quantities of water. The m…
I migrated our house to a "commercial" variant of the microwave oven [1] as I was tired of all the over-engineering and annoying patterns in modern microwaves. This microwave has exactly UI element other than the door - a digital dial that goes from 10s-6m. No start/cancel, no power level, no defrost, no program mode. I don't "cook" using the oven, only reheat or very rarely heat/boil small quantities of water. The m…
It's so limited without a power level feature. It needs to be able to cycle power to heat food evenly.
My guess is that they have some broken/inverted logic related to the "turn off if the door is open" feature.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36581204 - Repair adventure: A single white LED causing stuck keys on a RN988 keyboard (2023-07-05)
I wasn't thinking about the color of the LED at the time, but after reading this article, I wonder if we should prefer products with green LEDs in general, like green LEDs are just more reliable than blue/white LEDs for some reason?
Also, I can't seem to find microwave ovens with red LEDs.
I’m quite impressed by how many independent mechanisms there are to prevent the magnetron from accidentally turning on. Not only are there three door switches to ensure the door is closed, there’s also a mechanism to guard against a faulty microcontroller or software.
Personally, I think the ones with mechnical controls, no microcontroller, are the most reliable and also easiest to repair.