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Dark Mode Sucks

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#22

I disagree overall. I find it much less painful on the eyes to read in dark mode at night, even if there's no evidence for health benefits. I agree that dark mode as an additional UI shouldn't be an afterthought, and should be tested fully just like the main UI. Poorly-designed dark mode can be difficult to use because of things like bad contrast.

> I find it much less painful on the eyes to read in dark mode at night I don't understand this. Do people not use lamp or light source in their house? Are people living like cavemen? Otherwise, how is it that much difference between day and night+lamp? If it is sleep time, there is already blue light filter most OS supports nowadays. No need to ask each app to support a separate color scheme.

Easy, a proper screen puts out north of 500-600 nits also on phones. Also people's eyes have variable sensitivity to light, nothing weird about that.

Besides, you don't stare straight at your lamps. You do stare straight at your screen. The "night mode" just kills all color on your devices. It's a lot worse option than dark mode.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#23
post #2

I disagree. Dark mode is necessary at night. Having the app detects sunlight/sundown and adjust appropriately is the best. All it takes is for someone to be forced to work at night one time to appreciate dark mode (e.g. being on-call).

My devices have "night light" which changes the color temperature according to sunlight, rather than inverting colors. I believe Dark Mode is beneficial in certain situations. For a privacy enhancement or to reduce distractions. To evoke a retro or gaming aesthetic. A long time ago, I fell in love with "paper white" type color schemes, as they were known, and it just felt like a more pleasant experience than the CRT…

"night light" just makes everything yellow and looks like trash. dark mode is the superior alternative.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#24
post #19

I remember a time when usability people took pride in the high amount of work they put into what were often pretty damn great user experiences. My takeaway from this post is very different. Minimum work, or even modest work, and the users should be so lucky they get to even use the thing. The trend is already to dumb things down with flat design, tons of stuff not all that discoverable, and on and on I could go. Perh…

> Perhaps usability has peaked, and now posts like this are the rule of the day?

Probably, but the change can't stop. Must keep on innovating with useless side-grades or even downgrades.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#25
I agree with him 100%. It hurts my eyes. It's extremely frustrating that most sites still don't let you toggle between them. It's also frustrating that Chrome and Firefox don't have a button you can click that changes prefers-color-scheme. They're already picking up the value from the OS. Why not let us change it?

And before somebody asks, my OS is set to dark mode because the light mode UI is unusable.

I can't wait for the fad to pass.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#26
> For very little rewards, we've doubled the work required for interfaces.

It is not dark mode that was added, but the light one. Dark mode is OG.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#27
Whenever I accidentally visit a light mode site I get an immediate small but annoying stabbing pain that feels like it comes from behind my eyeballs. This is empirical evidence that light mode is harmful to me at least for that small moment when switching. Apparently the author thinks that growing up will fix this... but I'm unconvinced that's going to happen.

I use darkreader a lot, but for some sites it's not so good. If a site has a decent dark mode, or takes a lot of config to get working, I'll disable darkreader for the site.

Anyway, low effort opinion article.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#28
I think the problem isn't dark mode itself, but as the author states "native dark mode support". If your app is designed in white-mode, it's important to know how it is going to look in dark mode, and native support somewhat limits your control over that. This is particularly egregious in email.

This is less of a problem in apps and the web, but in email it is absolutely horrendous. But then again, the entire email styling thing is still in the dark ages.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#29
I'm all in on dark mode. All my devices are dark. I find it far easier on my eyes. And out of frustration that most sites don't have the option, I've enabled Chrome's auto dark mode[0], though this still breaks a few things (worth the cost to me).

[0] chrome://flags/#enable-force-dark

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#30
post #27

Whenever I accidentally visit a light mode site I get an immediate small but annoying stabbing pain that feels like it comes from behind my eyeballs. This is empirical evidence that light mode is harmful to me at least for that small moment when switching. Apparently the author thinks that growing up will fix this... but I'm unconvinced that's going to happen. I use darkreader a lot, but for some sites it's not so go…

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