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- Elon Musk on decision to follow Modi's requests for censorship
https://www.business-standard.com/technology/tech-news/twitt...
> The decision imposes a daily fine of R$50,000 (£6,800) on individuals and companies that attempt to continue using X via VPN. Fining even users is a bit surprising.
How can a court arbitrarily impose fines on users like this?
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All Elon needs to do is have a legal representative in Brazil for his commercial venture. He chose this.
The courts threatened to arrest his legal representation if he didn't comply with their demands to take down accounts accused of spreading misinformation and hate speech. So Elon closed all offices in Brasil. You think he should risk having an employee thrown in jail?
This has been a bad week for Democracy/freedom of speech
All Elon needs to do is have a legal representative in Brazil for his commercial venture. He chose this.
Starlink will now be free in Brazil since remote hospitals, schools use it: Musk
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41397506
Starlink's financial assets frozen in Brazil
(1) a supreme court judge ordered X to remove some political profiles saying they are spreading misinformation
(2) coincidentally (or not) most (if not all) profiles are from the opposition
(3) Elon said that that was censorship and closed the office in Brazil
(4) The judge applied hefty fines but those couldn't be fullfied since X doesnt have a bank account in Brazil anymore
(5) The judge orders a judicial blockage of Starlink's brazilian branch accounts to pay for X fines
(4) Finnally, Brazilian law demands a legal representative (a person who will be liable) and Elon say (very loudly) we would not comply
(5) X is now banned by all means
Can anyone speak to the motivations of this judge? Does he have a valid/legal/moral point under Brazilian law with attempts to ban those accounts on X? Or is he just a toady for da Silva?
The core facts are: Brazil demanded information regarding Brazilian users, and believed it was in their right to do so. X believed that the requests did not comply with Brazilian laws, and refused. Neither side yielded, so X closed up shop in Brazil, and, as a result, Brazil is blocking access to X.
Twitter/X closed shop because, after stating that they would not comply with these requests, the judge threatened to jail every Twitter/X employee in brazil in retaliation. So to avoid putting these employees/people in danger they chose to immediately close all offices.
Something similar happened in Argentina with twitter as well I believe, and in that case they relocated most of the employees and their families via political asylum in Brazil at the time, if i'm not mistaken.
Can anyone speak to the motivations of this judge? Does he have a valid/legal/moral point under Brazilian law with attempts to ban those accounts on X? Or is he just a toady for da Silva?
This article covers the beginning of the fight
https://apnews.com/article/brazil-musk-x-twitter-moraes-bef0...
And this one is an update on how both sides are acting kind of ridiculous
https://www.techdirt.com/2024/08/29/elons-standoff-with-braz...
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The courts threatened to arrest his legal representation if he didn't comply with their demands to take down accounts accused of spreading misinformation and hate speech. So Elon closed all offices in Brasil. You think he should risk having an employee thrown in jail?
Defying a court order can get you arrested in any country.