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Elasticsearch is open source, again

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Re: Elasticsearch is open source, again

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Post by jgb1984 »

everfrustrated wrote: post #16

Too late, the community all moved over to OpenSearch. I'll never forgive Elastic for locking basic security features behind their paid licence. Over the years probably millions of people had their data compromised due to that (due to people inadvertently leaving instances on the public internet - having auth enabled by default would have helped a lot)

Source? Unless you're locked into the Amazon flavor of cloud hell I'm pretty sure most people are using the "real" elasticsearch. I know I am.

Re: Elasticsearch is open source, again

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Post by aabhay »

richbell wrote: post #12

> [D.N.A.] > [LOVE.] I don't understand what these are supposed to mean. Is this a new writing style, song references, or just a quirk of the author?

These are songs by Kendrick Lamar. I guess that these were used to try and add a youthful, lighthearted touch to the article? Didn't work on me though.

Re: Elasticsearch is open source, again

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Post by mirashii »

> For example, MongoDB used to be AGPL and Grafana is AGPL. It shows that AGPL doesn’t affect usage or popularity.

I take some issue with this characterization. Let's look at Grafana in particular. Grafana was not always AGPL, and much of its popularity came before the license change. I've been in multiple organizations who only purchased a license for Grafana to avoid the AGPL terms because it had gained traction already in the organization and switching away would have been more costly, and AGPL software is still outright banned.

That Grafana is still popular does not show that the AGPL doesn't impact usage or popularity, only that Grafana is still popular.

Re: Elasticsearch is open source, again

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Post by tapoxi »

jgb1984 wrote: post #23
everfrustrated wrote: post #16

Too late, the community all moved over to OpenSearch. I'll never forgive Elastic for locking basic security features behind their paid licence. Over the years probably millions of people had their data compromised due to that (due to people inadvertently leaving instances on the public internet - having auth enabled by default would have helped a lot)

Source? Unless you're locked into the Amazon flavor of cloud hell I'm pretty sure most people are using the "real" elasticsearch. I know I am.

We have a vendor that refuses to support ES 8.x due to license fears, so we're just migrating everything over to OpenSearch.

Re: Elasticsearch is open source, again

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Post by jcoc611 »

richbell wrote: post #12

> [D.N.A.] > [LOVE.] I don't understand what these are supposed to mean. Is this a new writing style, song references, or just a quirk of the author?

It kind of reads like it was LLM generated..."Write an announcement/apology about ElasticSearch finally being open source again (for now), where each paragraph starts with a relevant title from a Kendrick Lamar song"

Re: Elasticsearch is open source, again

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Post by JoshuaRogers »

reducesuffering wrote: post #14

If Amazon's OpenSearch plateaus, and everyone wants to host ElasticSearch, but on their existing AWS infra/sales business inertia, this issue will fundamentally reoccur. Nothing actually changed except Elastic thinks Amazon will commit to their own fork. If Amazon doesn't, we're back to square one: Amazon hosts open source ElasticSearch, Elastic changes their license, another fork. "Amazon is fully invested in their…

I felt like that was implied by the usage of AGPL: if Amazon wanted to start using this and apply patches on top of it, the AGPL would require that they share those patches with their customers, which would allow Elastic to integrate them into main again.
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