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Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Damn. If there was ever any doubt about why you should get off chrome, this seems to put an end to that.

right but at least google will tell you.

brave a lot more shady and just wont say anything or let you opt out. many examples in the past. imagine if they were anywhere near a quarter of googles size it wouldnt be pretty imo.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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post #19

Padme: So then Brave isn’t going to be based on Chrome anymore, right?

Brave is a Chromium derivative, not Chrome. Can't imagine why any of this would imply they would need to stop deriving Chromium: they can develop and deploy whatever cookie policies and defaults they want.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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> We conducted a user study with 30 Web users, recruited over social media, and presented them each with 20 pairs of websites. Website pairs were randomly selected from both the Related Website Sets list (i.e., sites Google designates as “related”, and so warranting reduced privacy protections), and the Tranco list of popular websites. Each user was presented with different pairs of websites, asked to view the sites,…

1) Shares the same company name in the About us 2 & 3) Same company name in the privacy declaration 4) timesofindia.com belongs to the 3) company timesofindia.com also redirected me on tabbing out to a "you won a free Samsung phone". Shady.

Tried also to ask ChatGPT (4o) and it got it right on first attempt.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

#25

Damn. If there was ever any doubt about why you should get off chrome, this seems to put an end to that.

right but at least google will tell you. brave a lot more shady and just wont say anything or let you opt out. many examples in the past. imagine if they were anywhere near a quarter of googles size it wouldnt be pretty imo.

the only two browsers, Chrome and Brave

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything it sounds like "related" is not what they are actually doing. Rather they are looking at ways to uniquely fingerprint users through optimizing how they split "related" sites. Reminds me of the research that shows that 87% of people in the US can be uniquely identified with only three pieces of information: date of birth, gender, and zip code [1]. [1]: https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/pa…

That seems to be saying it is extremely likely that the only other person in my zip code that shares my birthdate is opposite gender

That sounds like a pitch for one of those "singles near you" apps. Find hot women in your area who share your birthdate!

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything it sounds like "related" is not what they are actually doing. Rather they are looking at ways to uniquely fingerprint users through optimizing how they split "related" sites. Reminds me of the research that shows that 87% of people in the US can be uniquely identified with only three pieces of information: date of birth, gender, and zip code [1]. [1]: https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/pa…

That seems to be saying it is extremely likely that the only other person in my zip code that shares my birthdate is opposite gender

Only 50% of the time, but that’s 50% better of a guess than you’d make without knowing gender.

ZIP codes contain maybe 40K residents [0] (many contain fewer) and there have been around 25K days in the last 70 years. Sure births are not evenly distributed, but still...

[0] https://www.unitedstateszipcodes.org/images/comparison-of-po...

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

#29
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything it sounds like "related" is not what they are actually doing. Rather they are looking at ways to uniquely fingerprint users through optimizing how they split "related" sites. Reminds me of the research that shows that 87% of people in the US can be uniquely identified with only three pieces of information: date of birth, gender, and zip code [1]. [1]: https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/pa…

That seems to be saying it is extremely likely that the only other person in my zip code that shares my birthdate is opposite gender

statistically, 50% chance, innit?

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If most or all users choose to block them then it would have roughly the same effect as blocking third party cookies by default would. Sure but most won’t unless the “go away now” button is “block” which I’m guessing Google wouldn’t do.

Google wanted to (that's why they created stuff like FLoC) but other advertisers didn't like that and went to the market authority. They demanded the ability to track users, arguing that the system would give Google an unfair advantage. After years of back and forth, Google abandoned their efforts. You can still disable third party cookies, in fact I don't think there's been a version of Chrome that doesn't let you b…

> and went to the market authority

its interesting that authority is in UK, but they pushed Google to abandon effort globally.

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