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The Monospace Web

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Re: The Monospace Web

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The tight line spacing has a negative impact on readability. It’s hard to read long paragraphs of dense body text like this. But the tables and other character graphics require this tight leading. That’s the problem with using the same character grid for both graphics and text. It could be alleviated with a font that has a particularly low x-height (leaving more margin above and below the letters).

How does it compare to the tightness of comments here in HN?

Re: The Monospace Web

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post #16

It looks nice, and I'm glad that it's semantic and responsive, but the fundamental problem is that monospace just isn't great for body text. I've read blog posts on multiple sites with monospaced body text, it's okay, but proportional really is the way to go in my opinion.

Agreed. It has started bothering me for authoring Markdown documents as well, where it’s often impractical to avoid monospace.

Re: The Monospace Web

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post #17
post #10

The tight line spacing has a negative impact on readability. It’s hard to read long paragraphs of dense body text like this. But the tables and other character graphics require this tight leading. That’s the problem with using the same character grid for both graphics and text. It could be alleviated with a font that has a particularly low x-height (leaving more margin above and below the letters).

I thought you meant line width and was confused because it's in the generally accepted range (~70 characters). The line height, I agree, is too tight. 19.2px at 16px font size is too cramped at only 1.2x. Making it 24px is a big improvement. To my eye, however, a taller line height doesn't affect the tables and other character graphics. With some tweaks like this I think the monospace style comes across quite well. *…

you could adjust the margins between paragraphs to fix the fixed grid, but then the tables won't adhere to it

Re: The Monospace Web

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I've been keeping a list of monospace pages: https://wonger.dev/posts/monospace-dump#web. Currently have ~50.

Spacing is a challenge. And you lose some legibility giving up proportional fonts. I think kerning in proportional fonts makes a big difference, letting your eyes recognize the shape of different letter groupings.

Monospace text is fine if you avoid long-form text, like when it's structured and highlighted in a code editor.

But it sure is pretty! Especially with Unicode charts and ASCII art.

Re: The Monospace Web

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Main problem is I guess the website would be broken the moment the user choose the setting to use his preferred font on the browser and do not use a monospace one.

While this was certainly a promise of the early ideas in CSS, is this something that is actually done? I'm guessing more people run without javascript than pick their own fonts.

Re: The Monospace Web

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Eh, I dunno. Websites have definitely gotten over-complicated and quite annoying. But this retro “look like a terminal” style seems like the wrong direction. I like fixed width fonts in a terminal where it is very likely that I’ll have to interact with columns of text as a thing. For reading, I mean, LaTeX was invented a million years ago, and can produce nicely formatted text. That should be the target IMO. If you w…

for dercuano my stylistic reference was medieval and early modern humanist manuscripts and incunabula, though without blackletter font, scribal abbreviations, and scriptio continua

Re: The Monospace Web

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post #10

The tight line spacing has a negative impact on readability. It’s hard to read long paragraphs of dense body text like this. But the tables and other character graphics require this tight leading. That’s the problem with using the same character grid for both graphics and text. It could be alleviated with a font that has a particularly low x-height (leaving more margin above and below the letters).

How does it compare to the tightness of comments here in HN?

Looks like HN uses `line-height: normal`, so it would be the same factor of 1.2 times font-size that's used on the Monospace page.

Re: The Monospace Web

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Ooh, this is the thread to ask my question in. A few years ago I ran across a ... I think a video game walkthrough? maybe? which was written to be read in monospace font, and it was full justified perfectly all the way through (thousands of lines!) SOLELY through word choice.

Anyone know what I'm talking about and have a link?

Re: The Monospace Web

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post #29

Ooh, this is the thread to ask my question in. A few years ago I ran across a ... I think a video game walkthrough? maybe? which was written to be read in monospace font, and it was full justified perfectly all the way through (thousands of lines!) SOLELY through word choice. Anyone know what I'm talking about and have a link?

I vaguely recall seeing a GameFAQs walkthrough that did this, and I think it might have been for a Final Fantasy game of some kind, but unfortunately I can't remember more than that.
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