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Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Post by concordDance »

shinycode wrote: post #11
xiphias2 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe all companies will learn to leave EU behind in innovation. Even though the rules are great, I'm just not sure if it will be good or bad long term for EU.

I don’t think this kind of « threat thinking » is true. « We find ways to steal from you and it’s still good for you because otherwise you will be left behind without us ». It’s kinda feels like bullying to me

This is an unconventional usage of "theft" in the "you wouldn't steal a car?" way.

Could you explain how the Uber drivers are worse off due to their data being in the USA?

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Post by jojobas »

xiphias2 wrote: post #6
askonomm wrote: post #4

Love it. Maybe one day U.S companies will learn that while they can steal and sell their own peoples information as they please, and they'll even have their own people brainwashed into such a state of stockholm syndrome that they will defend the corporations ability to do so, that's not the culture EU has, and it won't fly here. Corporations are not the peoples identity here, privacy and safety however are.

Or maybe all companies will learn to leave EU behind in innovation. Even though the rules are great, I'm just not sure if it will be good or bad long term for EU.

Maybe there's innovation somewhere, but putting third world migrants behind the wheel of rental cars isn't it. In any case, there are EU companies to pick up the slack (i.e. Bolt).

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Post by llm_trw »

croes wrote: post #18
llm_trw wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats what the Chinese through during the industrial revolution.

But the west came back for cheap labor so a win for China in the long term

The century of humiliation is a funny name to call a period of winning.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Post by djaouen »

cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #7
askonomm wrote: post #4

Love it. Maybe one day U.S companies will learn that while they can steal and sell their own peoples information as they please, and they'll even have their own people brainwashed into such a state of stockholm syndrome that they will defend the corporations ability to do so, that's not the culture EU has, and it won't fly here. Corporations are not the peoples identity here, privacy and safety however are.

No, you see US-headquartered multinationals have a God-given right to freedom, including the freedom to smuggle customer data overseas. God bless America.

If you don’t like it, stop using US-made products. :)

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Post by niek_pas »

djaouen wrote: post #26
cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you see US-headquartered multinationals have a God-given right to freedom, including the freedom to smuggle customer data overseas. God bless America.

If you don’t like it, stop using US-made products. :)

\s, I hope? Not using US-made products is basically impossible in the modern world.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Post by vidarh »

xiphias2 wrote: post #6
askonomm wrote: post #4

Love it. Maybe one day U.S companies will learn that while they can steal and sell their own peoples information as they please, and they'll even have their own people brainwashed into such a state of stockholm syndrome that they will defend the corporations ability to do so, that's not the culture EU has, and it won't fly here. Corporations are not the peoples identity here, privacy and safety however are.

Or maybe all companies will learn to leave EU behind in innovation. Even though the rules are great, I'm just not sure if it will be good or bad long term for EU.

All that will happen in that case is that it leaves less competition for companies that provide the same services in the EU.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Post by allendoerfer »

mettamage wrote: post #19
askonomm wrote: post #4

Love it. Maybe one day U.S companies will learn that while they can steal and sell their own peoples information as they please, and they'll even have their own people brainwashed into such a state of stockholm syndrome that they will defend the corporations ability to do so, that's not the culture EU has, and it won't fly here. Corporations are not the peoples identity here, privacy and safety however are.

Instances like this really make me feel that capitalism is devoid of any morality. If there's no law guarding it, a company will abuse its power in order to make more money. It could be a morally good thing, a morally bad thing, it doesn't matter: more money is more money. It feels heartless. I wish there was a better system.

We have tried systems based on some seemingly absolute moral codex. Some parts of the world are still doing it. Unfortunately it always comes with brutal ways to kill arbitrary groups of people.
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