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We found North Korean engineers in our application pile
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#22> We also noticed vague cover letter language:
Sadly, the examples in the article are as good as, or better, than letters I've received from US-based devs.
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#24When an employment fraud seen as SPY activity, and for anyone with whatever reason related to SPY things will finally and definitely be related to CHINA when there's noone involved has any relationship to CHINA.
As a Chinese, OMFG & ROFL.
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#25When an employment fraud seen as SPY activity, and for anyone with whatever reason related to SPY things will finally and definitely be related to CHINA when there's noone involved has any relationship to CHINA. As a Chinese, OMFG & ROFL.
And this is the first news today, OMG...
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#26I wouldn't mind hiring a NKean for my company. Just get them to defect to the US first! Lol
Usually someone allowed to defect has some value in terms of information they can provide. North Korea while a threat, isn’t exactly a near peer competitor. Especially in defense capabilities.
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#27What an unempathetic read for "worker applies to remote job and going through the incredibly uncomfortable but no less than the necessary desperate steps to try and keep it." Sure you have to reject them due to sanctions but in their absence, would you still? I'm sure there are spies and clearly this company uncovered an operation, but it's hard to judge because I would try it if it meant I could make US money. Becau…
That's just reality in North Korea. It's not any of the ordinary citizens' faults, but they all essentially have to be assumed to be coerced puppets of the state if they're perpetrating such application fraud. (Though, really, a company shouldn't be accepting fraudulent applicants even if they aren't spies.)
I'm sure there are plenty of North Koreans who are qualified (whether they are or aren't working for state intelligence), just as plenty of people working for Chinese intelligence are smart and qualified and decent people, like you mention, but we don't live in an era of utopian world peace where such things can just be overlooked when giving people access to sensitive systems, and we may not even in ten thousand years from now. We shouldn't expect Chinese tech companies to accept applicants working for CIA or NSA, either.
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#28I can think of maybe 20 countries where people would do this before DPRK, not least China, but quite a few in Europe to, Poland, India. why DPRK? like the level of Pakistan CS grads is probably better than most US ivy league grads, cant imagine DPRK has much of a CS education system.
From my discussions with various LE agents and attending a few talks, NK will send them off to some of the best colleges in either India or China to learn programming, computer science, networking, hacking, and etc. to learn and get a good education. Then they either travel back to NK to become part of something like Lazarus Group (NK nation-state hacking group), or they get assigned to something like this employee scheme to obtain and send funds back to NK.
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#29Most of the indica of "North Korean workers" are also correlates of protected hiring characteristics ("names that didn’t match their ethnicity"). If the United States federal government has a reason to dislike your company, they will use your efforts to suggest illegal hiring discrimination, as they did when they attacked SpaceX for not recruiting "refugees" to work on export-controlled dual use rocket tech.
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#30I wouldn't mind hiring a NKean for my company. Just get them to defect to the US first! Lol
Usually someone allowed to defect has some value in terms of information they can provide. North Korea while a threat, isn’t exactly a near peer competitor. Especially in defense capabilities.
Damn. I dunno, I was just trying to be nice. :(