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Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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I have myself been using chatgpt/sonnet-3.5 to clean data, extract data, heck, even generate sample sql insert statements for a given table schema... small things, but, when done repeatedly, saves soooo damn amount of time and frustrations. I have been using these tools to generate sooo many small scripts to automate or do things that otherwise I either wouldn't have done it, or, it would have taken significant amount of time. These tools are tooo good now to not use them.

Also, as someone else have already pointed out, these things work correctly 99.99% of the time. But that remaining 0.01%... that's what becomes major issue since it is so small of an error, that, unless you verify, you'll end up missing.

When using LLM's..."Trust, but verify".

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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I've been using ChatGPT for similar visual recognition things. Recently I took a video of a car because I really liked its color. I upladed the video to ChatGPT and asked to extract which paint color I'd need to specify to a modding garage to put a foil on my car. ChatGPT really impressed me, extracted a screenshot, did a color analysis of the paint, found the palettes from paint vendors and found for me the exact paint code to tell the garage. I was speechless.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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post #19

I did a similar thing with ChatGPT-4o giving it a txt file list of movie names, and it returned the release date of each one, then gave me an iCal file of all those movies with their release dates as recurring yearly anniversary events so I can watch my favorite movies on their anniversary. I’ve done it for a few friends as well now and it’s got a 100% success rate so far, across over 100 total movie names.

That is a really fun idea, I love it.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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You just have to double check the results whenever you tell Claude to extract lists and data. 99.9% of it will be correct, but sometimes 1 or 2 records are off. This kind of error is especially hard to notice because you're so impressed that Claude managed to do the extract task at all -- plus the results look wholly plausible upon eyeballing -- that you wouldn't expect anything to be wrong at all. But LLMs can get t…

Sonnet on Claude.ai can not execute code, although it often pretends otherwise.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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You just have to double check the results whenever you tell Claude to extract lists and data. 99.9% of it will be correct, but sometimes 1 or 2 records are off. This kind of error is especially hard to notice because you're so impressed that Claude managed to do the extract task at all -- plus the results look wholly plausible upon eyeballing -- that you wouldn't expect anything to be wrong at all. But LLMs can get t…

The "off by one" predilection of LLMs is going to lead to this massive erosion of trust in whatever "Truth" is supposed to be, and it's terrifying and going to make for a bumpy couple of years. (Or the complete collapse of objective knowledge, on a long enough time horizon.)

It's one thing to ask an LLM when George Washington was born, and have it return "May 20, 2020." It's another thing to ask it, and have it matter-of-factly hallucinate "February 20, 1733." At first glance, that... sounds right, right? President's Day is in February, and has something to do with his birthday? And that year seems to check out? Good enough!

But it's not right. And it's the confidence and bravado with which LLMs report these "facts" that's terrifying. It just misstates information, calculations, and detail work, because the stochastic model compelled it to, and there wasn't sufficient checks in place to confirm or validate the information.

Trust but verify is one of those things that's so paradoxical and cyclical: if I have to confirm every fact ChatGPT gives me with... what I hope is a higher source of truth like Wikipedia, before it's overrun with LLM outputs... then why don't I just start there? If I have to build a validator in Python to verify the output then... why not just start there?

We're going to see some major issues crop up from this sort of insidious error, but the hard part about off-by-ones is that they're remarkably difficult to detect, and so what will happen is data will slowly corrupt and take us further and further off course, and we won't notice until it's too late. We should be so lucky that all of LLMs' garbage outputs look like glue on pizza recommendations, but the reality is, it'll be a slow, seeping poisoning of the well, and when this inaccurate output starts sneaking into parts of our lives that really matter... we're probably well and truly fucked.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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I just did this with my kids various school calendars all of which are locked up in gross PDF files. Claude only made one tiny mistake which it was able to correct when I asked it why it made the mistake. It actually pointed out the confusing formatting used by the author. I tried to do the same with ChatGPT a few weeks ago and was unable to get very far.

I did this last year with my kids various activities using ChatGPT and the results were just OK. I'm looking forward to trying this out with Claude this year!

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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post #19

I did a similar thing with ChatGPT-4o giving it a txt file list of movie names, and it returned the release date of each one, then gave me an iCal file of all those movies with their release dates as recurring yearly anniversary events so I can watch my favorite movies on their anniversary. I’ve done it for a few friends as well now and it’s got a 100% success rate so far, across over 100 total movie names.

To bad that wouldn't work for good music albums. For many years (still, maybe?) albums would come out on Tuesdays. So one day of the week you'd have them all bunched up together.

That's how I remember that September 11, 2001 was a Tuesday. Album day, and there was a good one that day, too.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some reason I felt Claude was Yahoo to ChatGPT's Google in the initial days. It just felt like ChatGPT had an insurmountable moat. I played with Claude and it is just insanely superior compared to ChatGpt as of now. Someone on HN commented the same thing a few months back but I did not take it very seriously. But, Claude is just superior to Chatgpt.

I pay for both Claude and ChatGPT. Claude 3.5 is now my daily driver but it still refuses to answer certain questions especially about geopolitics so I still have to go back to ChatGPT. I don’t agree that Claude is insanely superior to ChatGPT though. It still has trouble with LaTeX and optimization formulations. Its coding abilities are good but sometimes ChatGPT does better. This is why I keep both subscriptions. A…

I've never had 3.5 refuse a blunt callout, unlike 3

For example if I get a refusal to answer a question, a short blunt reply of "Are you seriously taking my question in such bad faith?" or "Why are you browbeating me for asking that" gets it unstuck

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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post #19

I did a similar thing with ChatGPT-4o giving it a txt file list of movie names, and it returned the release date of each one, then gave me an iCal file of all those movies with their release dates as recurring yearly anniversary events so I can watch my favorite movies on their anniversary. I’ve done it for a few friends as well now and it’s got a 100% success rate so far, across over 100 total movie names.

To bad that wouldn't work for good music albums. For many years (still, maybe?) albums would come out on Tuesdays. So one day of the week you'd have them all bunched up together. That's how I remember that September 11, 2001 was a Tuesday. Album day, and there was a good one that day, too.

Jay-Z? Or Bob Dylan?
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